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Old 04-27-2016, 07:25 AM   #141
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There are lots of stupid people doing things "their way".
It is just a pity when it gets into the gene pool!!
I read recently of a couple with no experience buying a sail boat and planning a circumnavigation from UK. They were rescued 5 times in the English Channel I believe before the volunteer RNLI said "no more"!!
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:27 AM   #142
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I kinda liked her. I appreciate someone who is doing it their way. I think she was dumped on here without cause (in the beginning).
Yes, that' my take on it also. She got off on a bad footing, but many were supportive, and if she had just listened a bit more, she would have got everyone on board.

Sadly she did not twig to that fact, so in the end alienated what could have been a really supportive community. However, she gave it a red hot go, and I'm sorry to hear that after getting quite a nice boat, and a brief taste of live aboard life, she/they jacked it in. Maybe the 'they' played more of a part in that in the end. After all, if one or more of the kids, (or grandma), hated it...what could you do..?
It is certainly not everyone's cup of tea, for sure. However, I have not been following her blog, so others may know more...
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:41 AM   #143
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For me the issue was not so much "not listening".....it was she wasn't bashful posting repeatedly that she was very successful because she worked hard at what she did.

Well, so did so many trying to pass along good, universal advice in doing what she planned.

Most people do listen a little along the way....and don't keep pushing back that their totally unrelated talents will prevail.

If I went on a housing flipping forum and kept telling her my talents as a boat captain or other past success would make house flipping easy, the shoe would have been on the other foot. After the 100th post of how my "other" talent and the chiming in of my mother about it....I would guess it would all start to go bad too. It's not rocket science.

But I do admit, the tone of some forums do seem to assume everyone is completely new in every subject posted....except a few.
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:52 AM   #144
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I like her. I had some communications with her outside forums. I think she was treated very poorly on many forums including this one. I know most will disagree but if she had faked her name and came across as a man, she would have been treated much differently.

So she bought an old boat for a song and fixed it up nicely. She could likely teach nearly everyone here about cosmetic repairs and making a boat interior beautiful, as if most people would bother to listen to her.

She tried the lifestyle and didn't like it. She has memories rather than dreams. Good on her for that. Then she sold the boat at a handsome profit. Again, something many here only dream about.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:25 AM   #145
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setting and working big outrageous goals is often the route to outrageous success or failure. Knowing when to start over is also key to success.
probably not someone I would want to spend time with but straight up or straight down seems her path.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:36 AM   #146
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I would love to see the actual numbers and what was done.

Boat flipping is much like house flipping....possible...but most often the flip involves buying somehing you wouldn't want personally and usually never use yourself. Not always...but most of the time in my boat/house flipping experience.

Plus, having no experience and having to purchase it every step of the way cuts into those profits, and if you dont, you are REALLY setting yourself up for failure.

Again, it wasn't the dream ..... it was about attitude and the returned PMs that I and others received that did the most damage for losing support.
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:00 AM   #147
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I think she had other goals in mind. She starts out with a cool web page and blog, which states "watch me, a single parent of 5 cruise on a boat with no prior experience"...........
People are interested in seeing newbee's fail. If you can get thousands of subscribers and interest, you might get popular and on news shows. Then write a book. A couple from austrailia are doing this and getting all kinds of popularity. Other sailors are getting sponsored by companies like Mustang etc.
How true, life and entertainment have become one big reality show. I didn't really follow her, other than what you folks were posting. But from the beginning it reminded me of a reality TV show airing for the last couple of years on Discovery Channel "Alaskan Bush People".

The show centers on the nine member Billy Brown family who are purportedly living the Alaskan subsistence lifestyle. In reality, the Brown story has only a few elements of truth and is largely staged by the production company. It has been widely exposed for what it is in the press and Alaskan courts, where several family members were exposed and convicted of PFD application fraud. Yet people still watch it?

Not my cup of tea.
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If she had bought a "trawler" like this one she most probably still lived in it....
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Old 04-27-2016, 12:58 PM   #149
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I like her. I had some communications with her outside forums. I think she was treated very poorly on many forums including this one. I know most will disagree but if she had faked her name and came across as a man, she would have been treated much differently.

So she bought an old boat for a song and fixed it up nicely. She could likely teach nearly everyone here about cosmetic repairs and making a boat interior beautiful, as if most people would bother to listen to her.

She tried the lifestyle and didn't like it. She has memories rather than dreams. Good on her for that. Then she sold the boat at a handsome profit. Again, something many here only dream about.
I totally disagree with you. Myself and MANY other TF members offered great advice to her. She was rude way too often and tried too often to either flippantly disregard our inputs or discredit our experience. If it had been a male then I and most others would have treated him the same way. Her loss - Not ours!
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Well guys no use to arguing about whether she took our advice or not. It was all offered in good faith and if she used it, fine. If not, fine. This is a forum for adventure, experiences and advice. No rule says you have to take the advice offered. Press on with life, wish her the best and lets go have some adventures........
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:25 PM   #151
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I have a feeling that if she was a he, no one would have used "rude". No one calls me rude here. I'm arrogant. But that's part of the gender bias that happens with a bunch of older guys (me included). I know she felt it in a big way and looking at the comments then and now, she'd win the debate in a fair trial.
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:25 PM   #152
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"She was rude"?

In whose opinion.

I'm usually good for an opinion ... and my opinion is that this thread should be deleted. I could gladly mention names but .....
To the mods delete it or TF will wear the basher badge forever.
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:40 PM   #153
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Some of us had "gender training" so long ago......but does't mean forgotten.....well in a sentence or paragraph based forum....that is a huge stretch in personality guessing.

She wasn' Necessarily rude....but has been one of the worst in accepting advice graciously, whether it was good or bad.
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Mr. mb. I agree with that to a point. How about just close it? Post #135...
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:50 PM   #155
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Mr. mb. I agree with that to a point. How about just close it? Post #135...
Why close it? It's the perfect example of why women, for the most part, don't take part here. For that matter, other threads show the same thing for business owners and CEO's of boating based businesses. Maybe if there's enough great examples, some behaviors might change?

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Nah, I doubt it...
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Mr. JS. Are you suggesting that women, business owners and CEO's don't take part because of member negativity? I have seen some numbers of the above mentioned come and go but I also see equal numbers sign on who are STILL posting and contributing greatly to TF.
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I'm simply not interested in discussing Galaxy Girl. My gender has nothing to do with it.
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I like her. I had some communications with her outside forums. I think she was treated very poorly on many forums including this one. I know most will disagree but if she had faked her name and came across as a man, she would have been treated much differently.

So she bought an old boat for a song and fixed it up nicely. She could likely teach nearly everyone here about cosmetic repairs and making a boat interior beautiful, as if most people would bother to listen to her.

She tried the lifestyle and didn't like it. She has memories rather than dreams. Good on her for that. Then she sold the boat at a handsome profit. Again, something many here only dream about.

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I was for her all the way. If she would have been a live a board in warm area she probably would still be. Many people spend money on creature comforts and looks, when basic requirements are not. We tried to tell her it was not live a board ready.
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