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Old 01-17-2016, 12:46 PM   #361
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That's a strange looking vessel,...rather ugly as well,..no sheer, no style

...but lots of amenities.

Too bad they didn't put all of that money and effort into a nice looking hull,...like this
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Old 01-17-2016, 01:04 PM   #362
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I would call that a houseboat. First they built a house, then they made it into a boat.

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Old 01-17-2016, 01:13 PM   #363
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When I first saw the listing, I would have sworn it was made of steel. But no, it's fiberglass. No curves, but lots of space. It even has baseboards...

This guy Gustoff made his own design and then had a steel company cut it from CAD plans. He said it came in over 1000 parts. He built it in a concrete shop and the boat was just about as big as you can get and still get it out the door. One thing I like is the Deutz diesel engine he installed. It's a new water cooled engine, not the old air cooled tank engines. But still Deutz.

He has a remote control, a sunroof, and even a glass floor on the helm where he can look into the engine room. In the last video, he said it was about 6 years build time, and if you watch all the videos, they built everything.

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Great article in Passagemaker magazine (May/June 2016)
There is an outstanding article about Dave and Bobbi FORSMAN, PILGRIM 40 owners "Liberty" https://pilgrimliberty.wordpress.com/

in the new Passagemaker magazine (May/June 2016).

It is a great Tribute to be in the top shelf magazine!

We admire their excellent and hard work. We are so honored to have Bobbi and Dave as our Ambassadors of those magnificent PILGRIMS.

Their engagement, skills and contributions to the boating community are laudable.

I am quite impressed with his professional career accomplishment, Dave was Senior Lecturer in Engineering at at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College.

Dave got his B.S. in Engineering Technology from the Pennsylvania State University and his M.E. in Manufacturing Systems Engineering from SUNY at Buffalo.

He has been involved with engineering computer analysis since 1974. He has extensive experience in teaching Computer Graphics, Programming, CAD, and Rapid Prototyping.

FORSMAN Home page (on psu.edu)

Mostly, I am quite inspired with his problem analysis during his Pilgrim 40 maintenance and upgrade projects:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...oject_Page.htm

Other members and I have benefited from learned advices and he certainly won my admiration for his engagement to the Pilgrim community.

We are so proud to be PILGRIM owner and member of this Group!
Kudos!
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:05 AM   #365
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Some real nice photos of Real Mountie's engine room over here on this other subject thread:
http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...tml#post461010

I'll have to find a copy of that issue of Passagemaker mag, as I no longer get it in the mail.
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:15 AM   #366
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Steel Boat, heaven or hell?

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Just happened across this article by Bill Parlatore, past editor of PassageMaker magazine.

Cold Hard Steel | PassageMaker
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My steel boat is in for a sandblast and paint of the upper works. We've never had good adhesion, and that's a lesson in letting pros do (and guarantee) paint on steel. After that it's a small but recurring job to chase down breakthroughs and patch them. Note I'm talking about upper works. I have never had the tiniest bit of rust below the waterline, even when there was bare steel showing, for the simple reason that I keep the hull at above one volt with generous use of aluminum anodes. Fourteen of them, plus the prop shaft zinc. I don't think of my boat as being a yacht - she's a miniature ship. The finish is rough, but OMG is she tough - I'll win any fight with anything made of fiberglass, and with docks as well. In addition, being steel lets me modify at will - the way the dinghy is mounted just got changed from over the fantail to up on the top deck, and the anchors have moved from "nostrils" to more normal bow rollers - and I made the parts in both cases out of scrap steel.
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to redesign one of these .
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All boats need a little tweaking....but then they are completely different boats....
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I love that boat!

I cannot be any happier with this comfortable and head turner boat. We were the attraction on the Erie Canal. Where ever we went the love the boat.

Even the E-6 Canal lockmaster mentionned again on our way back to Lake Champlain: " I love your boat!" and honestly this comment coming from a professional who sees boats everyday in his carreer is quite a compliment to Pilgrim 40 owners.

Here is a picture of LIBERTY in Holley, NY... Ain't she beautiful?

And when we arrived in Burlington, Vt for errands, we were on the six o'clock news... May be it was a happy coincidence...
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to redesign one of these .
I`m with you, Mr Pilgrim has been done a disservice.
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REDESIGN,..redefined

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I`m with you, Mr Pilgrim has been done a disservice.
Believe me I was not really talking of modifying the topsides look of this vessel,...it is EXTREMELY attractive the way it exist.

I was looking at two items principally.
1) the construction of the vessel (both hull and topsides) that might be even more robust (steel bottom), and might be economically producible in limited numbers, without the very large upfront investment in tradition fiberglass plugs and molds to get into production.

2) tweaking some little interior details as they did themselves over the years with little changes in the layout, etc.

3) the possibility of a hard chine underwater hull design.

4) the possibility of a computer generated kit-boat offering
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The locations we have visited during our cruising in the Champlain, Erie and Oswego canals had beautiful architectures, charm and history.

The people were quite friendly and very helpful.

The lift bridge and Lock Masters very quite professional and client service oriented. This was the best trip we did in 7 seasons.

Kudos for all the NY Canal personnel!

Next year, September 25-28 2017 New-York State are celebrating the bicentennial of groundbreaking for the Erie Canal and the centennial of its still operating successor – the New York State Barge Canal System.

it is co-hosted by the New York State Canal Corporation, Erie Canal way National Heritage Corridor, and please visit Syracuse !!!

We used The New York State Canal Corporation's 3rd Edition Official New York State Canal System Cruising Guide.

This GUIDE is a "must have."

You may order your Official 3rd Edition New York State Canal System Cruising Guide, fill out the order form below and fax it to 518-471-5936 or call 1-800-422-1825 to place an order over the phone.

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Purchase the Official Cruising Guide - New York State Canals

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This 185 page publication offers the following features:

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Canal bridge clearances.

You may view the map of ALL the locations we visited:

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