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Old 06-10-2013, 08:10 PM   #41
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Had my fill of outdoor boating on sailboats. ... Avoid expense, duplication of helm/navigation station, and excess windage with just a pilothouse.

Mark - You have the perfect boat for you! We all have our favorite TV chair to sit in. And, we who are lucky and smart also have our favorite boat design to cruise/hook/play in. But, few of us have nuclear powered (i.e. insignia) craft such as two similar to each other vessels I immediately think of - LOL
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:14 PM   #42
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Had my fill of outdoor boating on sailboats. ... Avoid expense, duplication of helm/navigation station, and excess windage with just a pilothouse.
Mark, have you ever owned or professionally operated a boat with a flying bridge?
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:49 PM   #43
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Had my fill of outdoor boating on sailboats. ... Avoid expense, duplication of helm/navigation station, and excess windage with just a pilothouse.
Had my fill of outdoor boating on sailboats.

From where do you operate your sail? From indoors?

Avoid expense, duplication of helm/navigation station, and excess windage

Talk about added expense and excess windage! Not to mention bridge clearance!

Well, I'd never have a sail on my boat, but that's fodder for another thread.

BTW, I still like your boat...
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:11 AM   #44
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A flying bridge makes a great back rest as well.
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:12 AM   #45
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Mark, have you ever owned or professionally operated a boat with a flying bridge?
No, but been on friend's flybridges. On the first occasion it was too cold (berthed on July 4) and the second time anchored in SF Bay where it seemed like I could be flung from the boat. Regardless, I have no "flybridge envy."
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:21 AM   #46
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Had my fill of outdoor boating on sailboats.

From where do you operate your sail? From indoors?

Avoid expense, duplication of helm/navigation station, and excess windage

Talk about added expense and excess windage! Not to mention bridge clearance!

...
There is a clear hatch above the helmsman's position to monitor sail trim. Yes, sail handling requires stepping out into the solar storm.

Yes, there is some additional windage and bridge clearance, but it's neat to see the Coot with sail! Besides, the mast provides longer-range VHF use.

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flybridge views in Glacier bay

View from flybridge in Glacier Bay--stupendous!!!

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I LOVE BOATS! Big or Small, Sail or Power... However:

Every boat type has its place!

Pleasure sail boats workout best in fairly deep open waters with no low bridges

Pleasure power boats belong in waters wherever fuel is available

Ski boats should stay in generally calm water areas

Small o/b runabouts need considerably calm waters

Ocean racers... Sport fishers... Tugs... well, you get the idea!

So, I advise, whatever boat you are most attracted to or that you may own – enjoy the heck out by making use of it in the best useable most accommodating locations / areas available!

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On again, off again

A previous owner added a flying bridge for commercial charter, but the next one chopped it off again. I think she's OK either way. She'll be my last boat so I'll never really know.
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The latest version is classy. The flybridge was an atrocity.
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Well said, Art. Just as long as your get-home engine is not made of cotton sheets on a rope!
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View from flybridge in Glacier Bay--stupendous!!!
Glacier Bay and all other fjords are spectacular regardless of the viewpoint!

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"The latest version is classy. The flybridge was an atrocity".

OK Mark, but maybe when the upper deck was fully garnished with paying passengers, he felt differently
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Eagle, I'm eager to see your boat with sails unfurled!
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Alright Mark, when I'm next out in 35+ and a camera, I'll do it just for you.
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The latest version is classy. The flybridge was an atrocity.
Mark - You're simply "Bridge-A-Phobic!!
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:17 AM   #57
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Alright Mark, when I'm next out in 35+ and a camera, I'll do it just for you.
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Mark - You're simply "Bridge-A-Phobic!!
Definitely! But that doesn't mean I won't take advantage when offered of others' flybridges and extra engines.

I enjoy the "positive vibes" of people loving/enjoying their boats.
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Definitely! But that doesn't mean I won't take advantage when offered of others' flybridges and extra engines.
Right on!

We meet on water... I'll give ya "Bridge Joy"!
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I'm open-minded about them. I wouldn't want one totally enclosed in plastic. You may as well be inside then. I think the extra windage may necessitate a bow thruster when docking in a breeze.
I do like the open view it gives you, whether it be for manouevering in tight quarters or just enjoying the scenery.

When the weather is nice I sometimes relax out on the bow with the remote control for the autopilot. I just have to keep my head down below boom level when the sails are up.
Thats the only time I don't like my wannabe windows. Not very good for reclining against.
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