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04-18-2016, 06:37 PM
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Member
City: Winchester
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 17
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Rant on boats for sale
I'm new here and just wondering has anyone else noticed that people need to clean their boats before listing? I've been searching far and wide to buy a boat. I get turned off immediately when I see how filthy the pictures show the boat. I know some would say it shows the true condition of the boat but I would rather not see someone's dirt while looking at pictures.
While I'm at it, is it too much to ask for current pictures of the boat for sale? I'm not interested in how it looked in 2011.
Another thing is no one cares about the artwork or trinkets onboard. Also throw the beer cans away.
One more, brokers please be honest with your sellers. Some of these boats for sale are priced way over market. If brokers are just looking for listings and not sales then tell them whatever.
Wow I guess a lot of things bother me. Anyone else feel the same way.
Rob
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04-18-2016, 06:42 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Rob, next time you ask a broker to email you pictures make sure and tell him to have today's copy of the WSJ or whatever other periodical you may enjoy prominently displayed in at least 5 of the pictures.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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04-18-2016, 06:43 PM
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Guru
City: St Augustine,Fl
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,796
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I agree, peeps don't stow their personal belongings or dejunk the boat.
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04-18-2016, 06:48 PM
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Member
City: Winchester
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 17
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My point is that if they can't keep it clean then what is the maintenance like on systems? Also household appliances don't belong on boats. There is a reason for marine appliances.
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04-18-2016, 06:54 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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My pet peeve is CRT TVs. They belong in the previous century.
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04-18-2016, 06:57 PM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
My pet peeve is CRT TVs. They belong in the previous century.
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I would think that would fit perfectly with your boat...
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04-18-2016, 07:04 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
I would think that would fit perfectly with your boat...
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Hey, don't rub it in. Us peon posters are not all rich.
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04-18-2016, 07:05 PM
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robfoster
I'm new here and just wondering has anyone else noticed that people need to clean their boats before listing? I've been searching far and wide to buy a boat. I get turned off immediately when I see how filthy the pictures show the boat. I know some would say it shows the true condition of the boat but I would rather not see someone's dirt while looking at pictures.
While I'm at it, is it too much to ask for current pictures of the boat for sale? I'm not interested in how it looked in 2011.
Another thing is no one cares about the artwork or trinkets onboard. Also throw the beer cans away.
One more, brokers please be honest with your sellers. Some of these boats for sale are priced way over market. If brokers are just looking for listings and not sales then tell them whatever.
Wow I guess a lot of things bother me. Anyone else feel the same way.
Rob
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Interesting list... Pretty accurate too. There is at least one other thread here about the same subject and an EPIC thread at our sister site, Cruisers Forum, with TONS of pictures of dopey Yachtworld pics and Craigslist ads.
My big peeve to add to your list is cell phone pictures. Real cameras are not too expensive and make a world of difference.
Oh... and listing with only a few pictures... and none of the engine space.
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(NOT a trawler)
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04-18-2016, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member
City: Norfolk, VA
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3870
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 308
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Hey! You must be looking at the same boats I am
Nice thing about junk boats is it helps weed out the ones you really want to go see. . .
And the first thing I ask for from a broker is a couple engine room pics. If they don't or none is posted, pretty sure I know why
Hell, the engine "room" in my sailboat is the nicest thing it has going! It's going to be the first picture in the ad
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04-18-2016, 07:21 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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Pics attributed to "sister ship". Doesn`t the broker have access to the boat!
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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04-18-2016, 07:34 PM
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Guru
City: Port Ludlow
Vessel Name: Fiddler
Vessel Model: DeFever 46
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 703
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Pics with a fisheye or wide angle lens that attempt to make the rooms look bigger but really only distort them.
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04-18-2016, 07:34 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,218
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These pics may not add much to the sales appeal of this "liveaboard".
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04-18-2016, 07:36 PM
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#13
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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See here.
A 15 hour round trip from Jacksonville to Southport NC, followed by a failed offer in Fort Myers, 11 hour round trip, was enough to drive us to the bottle!
Search, Find, Survey And Sea Trial | AtAnchor.com
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04-18-2016, 08:20 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,143
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Broker lies are to be expected...
Junk and dirt clean ouy/off pretty easily compared to systems overhauls.
I see right past it to the important stuff.
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04-18-2016, 08:31 PM
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Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,515
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I'm new here and just wondering has anyone else noticed that people need to clean their boats before listing? I've been searching far and wide to buy a boat. I get turned off immediately when I see how filthy the pictures show the boat. I know some would say it shows the true condition of the boat but I would rather not see someone's dirt while looking at pictures.
Apparently you haven't looked at houses for sale lately. Dirty dishes in the sink, unmade beds dirty clothes on the floor...nd you wouldn't believe the mold and dirt in the bathrooms. And you really expect their boats to look any better???
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04-18-2016, 08:48 PM
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Senior Member
City: Gustavia
Vessel Name: Soler Fox
Vessel Model: Selene 62
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 339
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robfoster
I'm new here and just wondering has anyone else noticed that people need to clean their boats before listing? I've been searching far and wide to buy a boat. I get turned off immediately when I see how filthy the pictures show the boat. I know some would say it shows the true condition of the boat but I would rather not see someone's dirt while looking at pictures.
While I'm at it, is it too much to ask for current pictures of the boat for sale? I'm not interested in how it looked in 2011.
Another thing is no one cares about the artwork or trinkets onboard. Also throw the beer cans away.
One more, brokers please be honest with your sellers. Some of these boats for sale are priced way over market. If brokers are just looking for listings and not sales then tell them whatever.
Wow I guess a lot of things bother me. Anyone else feel the same way.
Rob
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Last year we was looking for our "new" trawler, toke a year to looking for the dream fit in our budget.
You can't imagine 2/3 hours by day looking every where online and preparing tripe to saw some boats.
This is unbelievable what people try to sale at stupide price and when you see pictures you can't imagine own this mess.
Any way some brokers are really not correct, I made long tripe to visit boat and discover the broker never saw the boat and was only 15 minutes from his office.
I was mad when I discovered that, boat was in terrible bad condition !!!
But I need to tell I meet some very professional broker too and at the end the broker who solde our Trawler became a friend and spend 10 days with his wife onboard, it was a great pleasure for us.
Hugues
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04-18-2016, 08:50 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
City: San Pedro, CA
Vessel Name: Boatless
Vessel Model: Dreamer
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 159
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Happened to me too.
Arrived at the boat with the broker, took a moment to look at the details, and began to see the dust-bunnies along the edges, and the killer was the lazerette... pulled up the hatch and it was so stuffed I could walk across the open hole.
I made an offer on the boat and one of the contingencies was that the buyer empty the vessel such that a surveyor could see all extremities of each hold.
My offer was not accepted.
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04-18-2016, 08:54 PM
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#18
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Member
City: Winchester
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 17
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I see the deplorable living conditions everyday. I'm in the water damage / mold remediation business. I understand everyone has different standards but, clean and tidy is a safety issue on a boat. I leaned early in my time serving in the US Navy that everything has a place and if it needs cleaning you better do it.
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04-18-2016, 09:32 PM
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#19
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Rant on boats for sale
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlinLA
Happened to me too.
Arrived at the boat with the broker, took a moment to look at the details, and began to see the dust-bunnies along the edges
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Damn. Really? Dust bullies ran you off? 😳
I try to keep my boat clean but there is always dust gathering somewhere.
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04-18-2016, 09:50 PM
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#20
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robfoster
I'm new here and just wondering has anyone else noticed that people need to clean their boats before listing? I've been searching far and wide to buy a boat. I get turned off immediately when I see how filthy the pictures show the boat. I know some would say it shows the true condition of the boat but I would rather not see someone's dirt while looking at pictures.
While I'm at it, is it too much to ask for current pictures of the boat for sale? I'm not interested in how it looked in 2011.
Another thing is no one cares about the artwork or trinkets onboard. Also throw the beer cans away.
One more, brokers please be honest with your sellers. Some of these boats for sale are priced way over market. If brokers are just looking for listings and not sales then tell them whatever.
Wow I guess a lot of things bother me. Anyone else feel the same way.
Rob
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you must be looking at boats that are at the low end of the typical asking price for the type of boat..
you get what you pay for.. especially in boats
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