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11-22-2016, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oakland
Country: US
Vessel Name: Arcangel
Vessel Model: Buewater 40
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 150
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Rant about boat buyers
I posted on CL a sailboat on behalf an old friend. He have some health problem and ask me the favor to sell his beloved sailboat.
After 24 hs, email flooded my computer.
Basically, 2 types:
1) Classic guy "out the country but in love with your boat" who offer send me a check. Close variation, guy on the services at Irak/Corea/China/Russia, unreachable, but his father can send me a check bla, bla, bla.... Nasty scam.
2) The worst... the guy who don't even want to see the boat... his email have just one single line with something like "what is your bottom price??'. If you tried to ilustrate him about the goodies onboard, the impecable boston condition, whatever, the single line keep coming to me.. 'last/bottom price".. and if you send a very low price, they're gonna counteroffer even 20 or 30% less...
And, finally, few timid answer about would like to see the boats...
Sell a boat on winter at north california is a challenge.. but I feel if you're searching for a bargain boat or a super duper mega yachts.. please.. do not send an email asking for your bottom price, even before check the boat.. it's rude.. and (at least for me) the most direct way to send your email to the dumpster... 
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11-22-2016, 06:04 PM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Country: USA
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,061
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I would LOVE to see the CL ad you posted! 
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11-22-2016, 06:11 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Country: Fried
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,284
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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11-22-2016, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oakland
Country: US
Vessel Name: Arcangel
Vessel Model: Buewater 40
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 150
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11-22-2016, 07:03 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Country: USA
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,422
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That's a give away boat.
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11-22-2016, 07:32 PM
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Guru
City: Southern Maine
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Cygnus
Vessel Model: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,289
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When I did this I got a ton of e-mails from people wanting to "broker" the boat for me - and take their 10% brokerage fee - even though I suspect they didn't even have an office.
I think the scam is that they just post it on a bunch of free web sites and hope to cash in. They have nothing to lose and 10% of the sale price of a boat to gain.
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11-22-2016, 07:37 PM
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Guru
City: Westport, CT
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Magic
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 46 Europa
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,810
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Pictures are deceiving. It probably doesn't look that good in person.
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Howard
Magic, 1996 Grand Banks Europa
Westport, CT and Stuart, FL
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11-22-2016, 07:54 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Country: Fried
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
That's a give away boat.
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You don't need to convince me.
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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11-22-2016, 09:05 PM
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Guru
City: Northport
Country: USA
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 722
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11-22-2016, 09:19 PM
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Guru
City: Saltspring Island
Country: BC, canada
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,086
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What model is the electric wench? and bottom line price?
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11-22-2016, 09:28 PM
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Senior Member
City: Port Angeles, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Irene
Vessel Model: Skagit Orca 27XLC
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 274
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I have sold plenty via craigslist, and I enjoy and appreciate using it. Since it's basically free, I am willing to deal with some of the nonsense that is described (and commonly experienced) by garrobito.
I like to put a few qualifiers in my craigslist ad, commonly:
- I do not need or desire any help selling.
- I am not interested in trades at this time, thanks.
- Please send me your contact information and desired contact time via CL reply.
The rest of the screening/qualifying can be done by phone.
I find the most useful craigslist ads have mostly facts vs. opinion, such as "engine has xxx hours, was serviced on date xxxx by XYZ marine, and rebuilt on date xxxx" versus, "The engine is perfect". The facts will tell the story and lead to fewer disappointments for the buyer AND seller. Finally, you can't have too many detailed photos. Take photos of the good, bad, and ugly. Transparency is king.
Good Luck with the sale!
Jeff
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11-22-2016, 10:59 PM
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Guru
City: LaConner
Country: USA
Vessel Model: 34' CHB
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 783
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Title of the thread should be Rant about CL boat scammers.
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11-23-2016, 06:13 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Country: USA
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,061
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Interesting part is "dock is upwind." Doesn't the wind direction change there?
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11-23-2016, 09:26 AM
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Guru
City: Melbourne, FL
Country: USA
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 865
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sooo, what's a "auto-piolet, piolet seat"
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11-23-2016, 10:24 AM
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Country: US
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,292
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Seems pretty obvious what they are . . . unless I have nothing better to do than make fun of people's English writing skills.
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11-23-2016, 10:48 AM
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Senior Member
City: Cape Cod, MA or Fort Myers, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Osprey
Vessel Model: Her Shine. Newburyport
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 257
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
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Photo 2 wonder what she looked like before she was made ready for sale?
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11-23-2016, 11:09 AM
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Senior Member
City: Bellingham, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: Willard 30' Searcher
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 471
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Weeding through the scammers and not so interested doesn't take too much time. I just recently sold some high end bikes on CL. Not five minutes after posting the ad the buyer saw it and contacted me. Came and looked, was very pleased with his purchase left with both and I had cash in my hand.
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11-23-2016, 02:44 PM
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Guru
City: East Coast
Country: USA
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,238
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Dealing with craigslist is a PITA. People on craigslist are looking for "cheap", not quality. Or they are looking to rob people or cause them harm.
Unless the boat is a POS, you should be presenting it to a higher class of potential buyers.
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11-23-2016, 04:09 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,245
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I don`t find the OP`s advt so hard to understand and wish him a good result, especially as he is helping an old friend in poor health.
A concern is the risk you draw a really smart scammer. Delivery should only come after cleared payment.
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Island Gypsy 36 Europa "Doriana"
Sydney Australia
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11-23-2016, 04:15 PM
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Guru
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,340
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Sold a bunch of furniture and a wide variety of things from four houses in the last decsde on CL.
Just sold a bunch of boating equipment too.
Even bought my boat from a CL ad.
Like many things in life....it takes weeding through...just like advice here. Never had any problems with buyers....except trying to meet up with a few that weren't from my area.
My last sale was a raw water strainer to a nice fellow up in Michigan who was thrilled to find an inexpensive replacement.....
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