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10-20-2010, 04:04 PM
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Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Seems to me, to get the best response, that one should have the female onboard to make calls for help.
(Mark and Perla at Pier 35, San Francisco onboard Dawn Princess for roundtrip San Francisco, CA*and Haines, AK, summer 2010)
-- Edited by markpierce on Wednesday 20th of October 2010 06:14:56 PM
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10-20-2010, 06:12 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Sure gets a better response from bridge tenders, towboats, etc.
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10-20-2010, 06:54 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
That really is a sexist thought. Please write on the board one thousand times, " I will try to do better". Me thinks you have too much idle time.
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10-20-2010, 07:12 PM
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Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Carey, you haven't convinced me I haven't*spoken the truth.
-- Edited by markpierce on Wednesday 20th of October 2010 08:13:30 PM
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10-20-2010, 07:17 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
OK, if that's what you seek? Speaking for myself, I would be just as quick to respond to either a man or a woman. A life is a life. Surely you see some humor in this topic that I have missed. You can't be serious!!!
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10-20-2010, 07:40 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Quote:
Carey wrote:
Surely you see some humor in this topic that I have missed. You can't be serious!!!
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Yes, I can*see the humor, but am also*serious.* There have been scientific studies (which I've*heard/read but*can't specifically recall/cite) supporting my theory.
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10-20-2010, 07:50 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
That's correct. It's genetically hard-wired into guys... the instinct to protect the fairer sex. I've seen the studies too; I'm sure you could google them up.
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10-20-2010, 07:55 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Seen no studies but experience surely indicates Mark speaks the truth.
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10-20-2010, 07:59 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
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Yes, I can*see the humor, but am also*serious.* There have been scientific studies (which I've*heard/read but*can't specifically recall/cite) supporting my theory.
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That's the problem with us old guys.* Some wisdom, but little memory.
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10-20-2010, 08:52 PM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Bantering aside, studies and interviews with pilots over the years have shown that a woman's voice is generally easier to understand on a crappy quality radio like a VHF (marine or aircraft) than a man's voice. Has to do with the pitch of the voice and the frequency response (or lack of it) of these radio systems. I know that I find it considerably easier to understand a female controller or flight service person (usually) than a male controller when flying. I've noticed the same thing on the marine radio. The women are generally easier to understand. So if you have an emergency and you have a woman on board, might not be a bad idea to put her on the radio if she knows what to say.
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10-21-2010, 02:38 AM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
woman's voice is generally easier to understand on a crappy quality radio like a VHF (marine or aircraft) than a man's voice.
Not in my experience , a female voice might get ones attention
PULL UP- PULL UP
but too many females will talk in a single word , no space between words.
Delta123turnright120descendto10,000united 345turnleftto230eastern666diveforthedeck!
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10-21-2010, 08:36 AM
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Scraping Paint
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
When I would get an IFR clearance from a man he would invariably deliver it as fast as he could which meant everyone had to ask him to repeat it two or three times. I even heard a UAL captain come on the radio at Honolulu International and chew out the clearance delivery guy for speaking too fast and if he didn't make his delivery clearer so his first officer could copy it he was going to "have a word" with the controller's supervisor.
I have never had to ask a female controller, clearance delivery person, or flight service person to repeat anything in thirty-plus years of flying. Their voices are more intelligible on the radio and they generally speak more clearly than men.
Perhaps not in person, but on the radio they are far better than men in general.
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10-21-2010, 08:50 AM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Marin,
Not sure I can agree with you on your opinion that a woman's voice is easier to understand. As a professional aviator and one that has lousy hearing, I have trouble understanding some women's voices particulaly if they talk in a monotone. Same with a mans voice, it just seem more prevalent with a women.
However this has nothing to do with getting ones attention the original topic of this post.
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10-22-2010, 11:00 AM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
We were waiting at the industrial canal locks in NO...tied up and waiting. We hear a female voice on a sailboat and they let her right on thru in between the "red flags". I did not speak up for fear of lengthening my time in the "penalty box"..... I have a close friend that is rather cold and short on the radio....took him 8 hours to get thru those locks. The cruising guides even suggest that if you have a female on board to let her speak on the radio...and at the very least, be as polite as possible...
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10-25-2010, 06:32 AM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
In the East coast ICW we have at times had to call the USCG on 22a to use the land line to call the bridge clown to wake them up.
Now we just use the 12G saluting cannon to say "HI", turn down Opra please .
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10-25-2010, 06:42 AM
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Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Quote:
timjet wrote:I have trouble understanding some women's voices particulaly if they talk in a monotone.
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Damn...., I thought it was just me!... but on everything else my hearing is perfect.......
Married 26 years and counting!
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-- Edited by hollywood8118 on Monday 25th of October 2010 07:42:58 AM
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10-25-2010, 07:05 AM
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RE: Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
My wife hates to use the VHF radio on the boat. She never uses it. She rightfully thinks its part of the man's job.
I have trained her, though, to handle it in the case of emergency. And when I was flying she did take the Pinch Hitter Course in flying which was to teach her to deal with in-air emergency and land the plane if I were incompacitated.
R.
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10-25-2010, 07:34 AM
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Calling mayday/pan -- an idle, sexist thought
Quote:
markpierce wrote:
Seems to me, to get the best response, that one should have the female onboard to make calls for help.
(Mark and Perla at Pier 35, San Francisco onboard Dawn Princess for roundtrip San Francisco, CA*and Haines, AK, summer 2010)
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Hark!* Do I hear a damsel in distress?
Of course, they get a better response.
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-- Edited by Moonstruck on Monday 25th of October 2010 10:12:12 AM
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