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02-23-2016, 12:54 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,266
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Question... Are you working for your boat???
This is a big question... Is the reason you are still working to pay for your boating hobby???
That's my situation, and I suspect others are in the same "boat".
I feel very fortunate that at 53 years old I could retire if it weren't for my boating hobby. We have a business that we run from the house that provides more than enough income to live on, including medical, travel, etc... But the boat puts us over the edge, so I still hold down a full time job. (Abet I only work 26 weeks a year).
In four years and 1 month I reach normal retirement age and can draw my pension, and my boat gets paid off as well. A year and a half later I can start withdrawing from my tax deferred savings.
But...
Right now I am working for my boat.
Anybody else in that situation? Are you working for your boat?
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02-23-2016, 01:16 PM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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I have been going through the retirement planning exercise myself the last couple of months. My wife wants to retire early (at about age 59 with 33+ years of teaching). Part of the equation is how we are going to pay for the next boat. The only way to do that (without making other financial sacrifices that she is unwilling to make) is for me to keep working. It is amazing the number of years that I have to keep working to pay for the purchase, use, and upkeep of the boat that we want.
I don't have any type of retirement being self-employed but I am fortunate that I will be able to gradually work less and take more time off over the next 10 years.
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02-23-2016, 01:39 PM
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Senior Member
City: Punta Gorda, Florida
Vessel Name: Salty
Vessel Model: Fu Hwa 34 Europa
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 211
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Yes and no. I am 13 years and 5 months away from full retirement age currently (that is if the rules do not change ) - but who is counting
My bride is 6 years younger than I and I would not want to retire without her being able to come along anyway so HiHo HiHo, it's off to work I go
I guess that means technically I am not still working because of the boat, but it doesn't help the budget any either
John
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02-23-2016, 01:58 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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I'm 55 and our daughter is in grade 9...as it turns out my earliest retirement date for a full pension is less than a year after she graduates high school.
Everything we have is bought & payed for, so payments aren't an issue. We've been putting money aside for retirement and for post secondary education (or travel/exploration if that's what she'd rather do) so hopefully that's squared away.
The fixed costs of our boat are what I used to spend on cigarettes and booze, so it hasn't effected our life at all, financially that is!!!!
We pay into a spousal RRSP and the plan is to use income tax return monies to finance the upgrades Badger will need for us to comfortably travel BC's north coast for months at a time.
After retirement we'll keep Badger in good condition without major upgrades, and pad the retirement saving by selling our photographs.
Such is the plan...reality may intervene...
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02-23-2016, 02:22 PM
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Guru
City: Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Vessel Name: Moana Huaka'i
Vessel Model: Selene 53
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 816
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Short answer is no. If we didn't have the boat I'd still be working.
I do see the possibility of one day delegating more of what I do and working part time from the boat wherever we happen to be cruising, but that's I'd guess 10 years in the future or more.
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02-23-2016, 02:56 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,021
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I retired at 55 and am now 80. Just sorry I couldn't afford to retire sooner. Beats the hell out of workin' that's for sure.
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02-23-2016, 03:02 PM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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I happened to meet with a financial planner yesterday, a sailing friend of long acquaintance. After discussing finances, we started to discuss one of the reasons for financial decisions, boats. As it turns out, he is currently repowering his sailboat because as he said "hard to sell a boat without an engine".
He and his wife, as it turns out, are doing the same thing we are, looking to transition to a trawler. One of the boats on their short list is the same as ours, a NT37. Much like me, he would be happy with a NT32-34, but his wife wants a second stateroom for kids to come along, exactly like my wife.
At least my financial advisor "gets it" as I try to pay for the boating habit.
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02-23-2016, 03:04 PM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,790
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Nope. I am fortunate enough not to have anything better to do (than work, which I actually enjoy) and I want to set a good example for my kids (two in college, one in high school, all hard workers).
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02-23-2016, 03:47 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Cameron, La
Vessel Name: Baobab
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,660
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Nope, I am fortunate enough to be fully retired (9 years ago at 52). I too want to set a good example for my kids. Work hard and you too can retire early and go cruising!
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02-23-2016, 04:03 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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Still working at 60 . Hardwood lumber . I go in everyday . Although I sell more lumber when I'm at the boat . I tell my boss it's all about attitude .
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Marty
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02-23-2016, 04:19 PM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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My retirement date is so far astern it's gone below the horizon. Work, what is that? I'm 69, retired just over 5 years ago. So did my wife who is 60.
So no, I'm not working for the boat, I'm not working for anything except my wife. My Honey-Do list never seems to get shorter, but what the heck, what else would I do?
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Mike and Tina
1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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02-23-2016, 04:27 PM
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Guru
City: Here
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,940
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I am 64 and not sure what retirement means. I wake up every morning looking forward to what I do. Ihesitate to call what I do "working" and doubt I'll ever stop "working" after all I hang around boats all day, get to drive many different boats (sea trials and deliveries) all the time and then people give me money
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02-23-2016, 04:34 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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Had a customer who was a retired butcher for a large grocery store chain. Got into scuba diving; started diving a lot. Had to get a part time job with his son's mechanical contracting business to afford his diving habit. Used to tell people on the boat, "I'm diving paycheck to paycheck ".
Ted
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02-23-2016, 05:07 PM
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Guru
City: Trenton
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,522
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No. I retired in June. Angelina has been paid off for over a decade.
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Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader
"Angelina"
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02-23-2016, 05:20 PM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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I am retired and have been retired for over ten years. When I saw my current boat, I called my financial planner and asked if I could afford it. She said "Yes."
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02-23-2016, 05:30 PM
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Guru
City: Pahrump, NV
Vessel Name: Pairadice
Vessel Model: Sold Selene 47
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,967
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Retired for the second and last time, 11 months ago. Not gonna go back to work, retirement is work enough!
Hope to see some of you in the coming months up North!
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02-23-2016, 05:42 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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I retired in 1992 at the age of 51. I'll be 75 next month and haven't missed working one damn bit! I'm at the boat at least 5 days a week, spending money on projects that aren't even necessary. I look at taking care of my boat as if it's a 57 Chevy.....which I always lusted for but never had.
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Done with diesel power boats! Have fallen in love with all electric!
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02-23-2016, 05:47 PM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,877
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I retired 3 years ago this coming June. I'm keeping up with the boat maintenance but we,spend everything I earn on retirement, including a drawn on the dividend income from the RRSP. I just picked up a couple of contracts which will help things a bit.
I am working for the boat. I'm doing many of the projects myself. For example, I rebedded all 7 Pilothouse windows and replace 4 panes that had clouded around the edges. Total materials were just under $700. I talked to another owner of a KK42 and he paid a shipwright $4,000 to do only the 3 forward windows and his completed work didn't look any different than mine. I figured I saved $8,600.
Jim
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02-23-2016, 06:41 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Brisbane
Vessel Name: Insequent
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 50 Mk I
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,262
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I retired and paid cash for the boat and extensive refit. The latter was pretty much all yard work and cost way too much. But time is too valuable for me to have done all that work myself - it would have been a multi-year saga.
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Brian
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02-23-2016, 06:47 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Didn't purchase my boat until after (1) the kids' college expenses ended when they graduated, (2) paid off all debts including house mortgage, and (3) retired.
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