Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-30-2019, 10:32 PM   #1
Member
 
Grandbanks3642's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 11
Question about a boat

Hi everyone,
I found a Grand Banks I really like but it has issues.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/b...922037336.html
I have a budget of 10-15k for this boat if purchased at this price, is this to much work for a newbie ( most experience on trailer boats). I am not afraid of bright work but I am worried about hull blisters. I love the twin Lehman’s, they are bulletproof engines.

I know it’s not a lot to go on but any input is appreciated! Thanks!
Grandbanks3642
__________________
Advertisement

Grandbanks3642 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 12:22 AM   #2
Guru
 
bshillam's Avatar
 
City: Portland, OR
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Nameless
Vessel Model: 22' Sisu
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 576
Wood work,

Making the paneling look factory is going to be a challenge. It looks like the boat has been neglected for quite sometime. If you see there is a lot of a water staining in various other places throughout this boat. You will have repaired one area only to find another needs your attention.

Now with that said, if the mechanics of the boat check out and your willing to complete the work it might be something worth pursuing. Keep in mind though it always cost more and takes longer to complete than you initially think. The great thing, once pulled together if done right and in line with what the factory turned out you'll have a 50-75k boat.
__________________

__________________
Highly experienced, positive and motivated helping buyers and sellers navigate the maze of the Real Estate market from start to finish.
bshillam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 05:38 AM   #3
FF
Guru
 
FF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 19,521
If most of the work is cosmetic you can work and learn at a modest pace and see results.

If lots of woodwork is required , even with good skills hand tools will not be enough.

A table saw (portable is fine) and a 6x48 belt sanding table will need space to operate.Plus of course the usual assortment of circular saw, jig saw , vibrating saw and a couple of sanders of different style.

"The great thing, once pulled together if done right and in line with what the factory turned out you'll have a 50-75k boat."

IF the joiner work is up to boat standards.
FF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 06:39 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
lipets's Avatar
 
City: FL
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Benneteau Swift 42
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 208
offer 12.5-15 tops, no one else will
lipets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 09:02 AM   #5
Guru
 
tiltrider1's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,389
How wrong can you go if you offer $15,000? Unless you don’t have another $15,000 for maintenance. Any boat is going to require maintenance. This one is going to require more. At $15,000 you have hit bottom of the value chart. This means you won’t loose any money if you take short cuts on your cosmetic repairs.

I suggest you still do a survey so there are no unknow surprises. I wouldn’t even be concerned if it had blisters at that price.
tiltrider1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 09:24 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Portage_Bay's Avatar
 
City: Coupeville Wa.
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Pelorus
Vessel Model: Californian 42 LRC
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 452
I'd be concerned that the water damage is deeper than just the interior paneling. Check out this thread Show us your rot porn

If your intended use is Puget Sound in the summer then you don't need to do more than stop the leaks and achieve a level of finish you're happy with. If your goal is to cruise more open and potentially rougher water then you'll need to fully address the hidden rot.
Portage_Bay is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:46 AM   #7
Veteran Member
 
NWSeadog's Avatar
 
City: La Conner, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Full Circle
Vessel Model: CHB 34
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 85
I think a 1973 Grand Banks probably has a wood hull. You should have someone make sure there is no problems there and are comfortable with wood hulls. One problem these boats are noted for is deck leaks. If the decks are teak and have not been maintained they can get leaks that end up in rot under the deck. The only solution that I know of is to pull up the decking and rebuild. Spend some time walking around the decks looking for any springy areas. Probably rot underneath. I looked at quite a few boats during the winter and water would squirt up in those areas. Also leaky decks cause the iron fuel tanks to rust on the top.

It looks like the water tanks have been replaced. They initially came with a lot larger tanks.

FYI Just something to consider is that you will find that there are a lot of annual costs that you don't have with a trailer-able boat.
NWSeadog is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:47 AM   #8
CEC
Senior Member
 
City: SF
Country: USA
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 125
If I read your post correctly you have 10-15K extra if you purchase the boat at 26K? So you have around 35-40K total? If so I personally would not buy this boat.


If the motors and transmissions are in excellent shape I agree offering 12.5-15K max might be worth it, but your still taking on a jumbo size can of worms at that price imo.
CEC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 04:50 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Rain Dog's Avatar
 
City: Pensacola, FL
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Rain Dog
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 184
I would guess you are looking at thousands of hours of work if you do it all yourself. Depends how much time and skill you have. Even if you do all the work yourself, it would be hard to stay in your budget.

They seem to be going out of their way to avoid showing the decks. I am guessing that means all the teak needs to be pulled, the fiberglass cut away, and all the core replaced. Most likely it also means the fuel tanks need to be replaced (google Grand Banks Fuel Tanks).

Just fixing the decks and tanks, assuming you do all the work yourself (except manufacture the tanks), is probably a couple of hundred hours and $10,000 or more.

Given your budget, I would look at something smaller. Maybe a GB or Island Gypsy 32.
Rain Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 05:28 PM   #10
Guru
 
Comodave's Avatar
 
City: Au Gres, MI
Country: US
Vessel Name: Never Say Never
Vessel Model: President 41 DC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 5,080
Grand Banks started making fiberglass boats in 1973. According to the Craigslist add this is a fiberglass hull. I am not sure when they went to fiberglass houses so I would check and see if the cabin is glass or not.
Comodave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 06:21 PM   #11
Guru
 
tiltrider1's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,389
I think it would be foolish to by this boat for extended Coastal Cruising. However for cruising the Puget Sound to Gulf Islands in the summer I think an old boat is fine. Sure the cabin top is full of rot and the decks are probably soft but at this price one could get by just patching the problems. Trying to restore this boat would be a mistake, patching it and using it would be the way to go.

Now if a survey finds structural issues in the hull I would bail.
__________________

tiltrider1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012