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Old 02-11-2015, 01:36 PM   #101
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Ahh... The old "sistership" routine. I know it well.
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:13 PM   #102
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You could buy this, sell the giant outboards and replace with two smaller 4 strokes and you are set!

36' Whitcraft Hatteras Houseboat

http://gainesville.craigslist.org/bod/4836238640.html
That's a pretty nice house boat, as houseboats go. Not elegant in profile, but it has a certain something about it that is surprisingly rather attractive.
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Old 02-12-2015, 06:46 AM   #103
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If you want attractive the old Trumphy Houseboats are hard to beat, although wood.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:34 PM   #104
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No, there is no need to dry a hull out. We have had both wood and fiberglass boats that were only out of the water long enough for a bottom paint job. Years of ownership and no issues. Hell I haven't even ever heard of that before your post.
I couldn't agree more. In fact, I worry that the drastic temp swings in more northern climes are worse than leaving the boat in the water year round where the temps are generally above freezing.

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Old 02-12-2015, 04:37 PM   #105
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Thanks Everyone for your comments and tips. Still looking, hopefully we will find one soon. We have been talking to some surveyors and shipwrights.

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Old 02-12-2015, 07:55 PM   #106
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One of the best places to find the boat you need is in the back of the boatyard. Lots of boats have been eventually moved there, for any number of reasons. Some are actually "good old boats" in disguise. Brokers dont like to list them and surveyors never see them. Just ask the yard boss if they have anything you may be interested in. You will be surprised. Especially if you hint that you may need the yard to do some work on it if you end up buying it. The "caveat" tho,,, you gotta know what you're looking at.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:10 PM   #107
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Hi Everyone!

We are still searching for a Trawler, spent the last several days in Virginia, Maryland and New Jersey looking at Used Trawlers.

The problems we are finding are as such:
1)Black oil left in tanks or metal shavings, we have seen this when pulling the dip stick out to check the oil.
2)Water damage, rotten aft cabins, headliners removed with rotted wood underneath, teak decks with planks coming up and screw holes exposed.
Can any of this be fixed and if so is it very costly?
Should we just look elsewhere? This has been very discouraging for me and my husband, especially my husband since he would be the repair person for these things.
Also, if we were living aboard does anyone know if any of these could be fixed while we live on aboard or do you think we should have a backup plan?
We also still have two cats that will be aboard with us, where would we put them?!
Sorry, but we need to find something soon and our price range is limited.
I have been semi-retired for one year, I purchased a 1979 34ft Mainship, It has been a learning experience, I purchased a boat that needed some work it was one that I could repair and take out, I purchased the boat for $24k I believe that I should have waited and could have purchased the boat for 18-20k. So if you find one that you like wait a while hire a surveyor and ask other boaters what they think.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:30 PM   #108
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I have been semi-retired for one year, I purchased a 1979 34ft Mainship, It has been a learning experience, I purchased a boat that needed some work it was one that I could repair and take out, I purchased the boat for $24k I believe that I should have waited and could have purchased the boat for 18-20k. So if you find one that you like wait a while hire a surveyor and ask other boaters what they think.
If you make it to Melbourne send me a message I will be glad to help.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:08 AM   #109
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If you can do all the work yourself, I found it much cheaper to have your boat trucked to the house where you can work on it without paying storage fees. It cost me $1320 to have my 36 Prairie hauled from South Florida to North Florida (that is 2 months storage in a work area at a marina). I am completely re-painting the entire boat on the outside and going through every system, plus new interior and new appliances. I had four large power poles set (pieces of transmission poles 28" in dia and 28' long) with two more place on top to form my lift frame. I purchased 4 five ton chain hoist from Harbor Freight for $137 ea. and two 28000 lb lifting straps for $58 ea. I lifted the boat straight up and the pulled the truck out. I am at the house with all my tools and shop and in six months (probably a year) the trucking Co. will return and I will set it back on the truck to go to the Marina.
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If you can do all the work yourself, I found it much cheaper to have your boat trucked to the house where you can work on it without paying storage fees. It cost me $1320 to have my 36 Prairie hauled from South Florida to North Florida (that is 2 months storage in a work area at a marina). I am completely re-painting the entire boat on the outside and going through every system, plus new interior and new appliances. I had four large power poles set (pieces of transmission poles 28" in dia and 28' long) with two more place on top to form my lift frame. I purchased 4 five ton chain hoist from Harbor Freight for $137 ea. and two 28000 lb lifting straps for $58 ea. I lifted the boat straight up and the pulled the truck out. I am at the house with all my tools and shop and in six months (probably a year) the trucking Co. will return and I will set it back on the truck to go to the Marina.
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Old 02-13-2015, 11:53 AM   #111
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That is the exact reason I own a truck/ yacht trailer. I was going to cost $13,000 to haul my boat from Bolivar Texas to my home. And another $13 to haul it back. I paid $20,000 for the truck and trailer. The trailer is a 53 foot yacht transport unit. Truck is a Freightliner FLD 120. After I'm done I will sell it. I wont make money but I wont lose $26,000 either. And, I get a lot more done when I'm close to my shop and tools.
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Old 02-13-2015, 12:55 PM   #112
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McDonald & Assoc. Marine Haulers Have been hauling boats for thirty years and are a very good company to work with. Beverly will answer the phone and they are the haulers not some broker that is going to put it out for bids. No one else I spoke with came close to their prices. If you ever need a boat moved call them at 800-783-7071. They moved our boat from Sarasota to Jacksonville area for $1320 with escort and permits included.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:47 PM   #113
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If you can do all the work yourself, I found it much cheaper to have your boat trucked to the house where you can work on it without paying storage fees. It cost me $1320 to have my 36 Prairie hauled from South Florida to North Florida (that is 2 months storage in a work area at a marina). I am completely re-painting the entire boat on the outside and going through every system, plus new interior and new appliances. I had four large power poles set (pieces of transmission poles 28" in dia and 28' long) with two more place on top to form my lift frame. I purchased 4 five ton chain hoist from Harbor Freight for $137 ea. and two 28000 lb lifting straps for $58 ea. I lifted the boat straight up and the pulled the truck out. I am at the house with all my tools and shop and in six months (probably a year) the trucking Co. will return and I will set it back on the truck to go to the Marina.
Very cool! Now if I only had a house and shop to take my boat to.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:14 PM   #114
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Very cool! Now if I only had a house and shop to take my boat to.
Now understand me having a shop would mean absolutely nothing toward getting it fixed, but I was thinking too what our neighbors would think in Fort Lauderdale if we set that up in our driveway or something. Driveway, patio, and pool are about the only yard we have. Maybe a couple of narrow strips.
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I've considered the kulas and lollipop route and frankly that is the only way I'll buy a boat that needs a refit. I can hire a crane and set a 40'er in my back yard very easily. Of course if I ever go the Connall route I'll only need to hire the crane and truck for removal. Yard fees add up for a DIY effort pretty fast when you are an hour away from a yard. The drive time also kills productivity.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:13 PM   #116
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Anyone Know Anything about replacing floor boards under Lehman Engines

It seems on one of the boats we are looking at there is a problem with the boards directly under the engine. They are warping.
Also, the trawler still has iron tanks, which we can't really get underneath to see if they are intact, you know no leaks and such.

Any ideas or help?

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Old 03-12-2015, 11:32 PM   #117
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I'm not sure what you mean by boards under the engine. Is it a wooden boat, or are they just there to stop things dropping into the bilge? Photo's would help.

With the iron tanks, looks for rust stains on the fibreglass at the base of the tank; or any signs that water has the potential to pool under the tanks. Ideally the tanks should be raised slightly on supports so air can circulate underneath, rather than a splash of water sitting underneath for weeks beginning the corrosion process. Sadly - this is rarely done with original tank installations.
With any 30 year old trawler with original tanks, I would say the chances of it needing new tanks soon are more than 50%, regardless of how they appear. It may be worth looking at how easily they would be to replace. (Is engine removal required?)
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:55 PM   #118
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AusCan,

I am sorry I meant to say Stringers before. No it is not a wooden boat. It is Fiberglass Monohull.
I have another question for you though. Can a Marine Trawler have smaller fuel tanks say like 3 tanks 50 gallons each instead of 2 large 150 gallon fuel tanks? Is that possible?
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:05 PM   #119
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Not familiar with "marine trawler", is that the make of the boat ? If the stringers below the engines are "warped" it probably has fiberglass covered wood stringers that are ROTTEN. There should be copious amounts of other rot on the boat as well.
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Yes thank you for your input Kulas44 and yes it is a Marine Trawler.
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