Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-18-2018, 09:34 PM   #1
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
Possible owner CHB 34

So we just put an offer in on a1976 chb34 trawler. Offer was accepted. Survey is set for jan 31st. Teak decks removed. New aluminum windows. Super excited but nervous. We currently have a Baylliner 2850 that we will be selliing this spring, so this one is a little daunting.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20180116-120701.jpg
Views:	140
Size:	89.5 KB
ID:	72224  
__________________
Advertisement

Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2018, 09:52 PM   #2
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,813
Survey? Is that a hull survey AND engine/generator survey?
__________________

__________________
1988 M/Y Camargue Yacht Fisher
Alaskan Sea-Duction
MMSI: 338131469
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2018, 10:07 PM   #3
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
Overall survey. No mechanical, but won't do a motor survey unless something comess up with the sea trial. It's 1k for the standard survey. Another 1k for mechanical. Won't do it unless it needs it
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2018, 10:14 PM   #4
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,813
My advice is get both surveys. Worth every penny! If an engine craps out for a cause that a survey would have caught. That expense is far far more $$$ than the 1k for a survey. Well unless you are a certified diesel mechanic....Just say'in


BTW Welcome to TF!!!!
__________________
1988 M/Y Camargue Yacht Fisher
Alaskan Sea-Duction
MMSI: 338131469
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 12:06 AM   #5
TF Site Team
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,990
Send a message via Skype™ to Peter B
I have one of these, albeit the sedan version, not aft cabin, but otherwise the same. If the windows have been replaced, and the teak decks taken up, then so far it sounds good.

However, what is also important is, was the deck then reinforced and recovered with new fibreglass non-skid, as mine was.

Also, have there been any leaks down onto the tops of the fuel tanks, causing hard to see rust and holes on top, which is one of the commonest bugbears of the design. Actually a problem with all those Asian built trawler style boats in fact, until they stopped screwing the teak down, and went over to gluing it down.

This results in fuel tank leak issues and often replacement is needed on many of them, unless caught in time. Such a shame too, as would have been so easy to avoid with some forethought re the likely outcome of multiple screwholes into the upper f/glass layer.

Also check for the possible water damage to the interior and walls, as back then the cabin was not f/glass, but a thin layer of mat or just paint over timber, and not great timber at that. The window replacement hints at that being a real possibility.

Having said all that, however, they are lovely seaworthy and sea-kindly vessels and a delight to cruise in. So don't be too put off. Just be alert, but not too alarmed. Much of the cosmetic deterioration can be restored by the DYI approach if you are keen.
__________________
Pete
Peter B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 12:18 AM   #6
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
Fuel tanks are my concern as well. I spoke with the surveyor who is very familiar with clb's. We talked extensively about them and I feel confident that he is the guy I need for this survey.

Will there be bad, I expect there may be, but the bottom line is "what am I am willing to deal with". I'm good with that and will decide once it is done. I will be there with the surveyor and we will do the sea trial with the owner the same day.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B View Post
I have one of these, albeit the sedan version, not aft cabin, but otherwise the same. If the windows have been replaced, and the teak decks taken up, then so far it sounds good.

However, what is also important is, was the deck then reinforced and recovered with new fibreglass non-skid, as mine was.

Also, have there been any leaks down onto the tops of the fuel tanks, causing hard to see rust and holes on top, which is one of the commonest bugbears of the design. Actually a problem with all those Asian built trawler style boats in fact, until they stopped screwing the teak down, and went over to gluing it down.

This results in fuel tank leak issues and often replacement is needed on many of them, unless caught in time. Such a shame too, as would have been so easy to avoid with some forethought re the likely outcome of multiple screwholes into the upper f/glass layer.

Also check for the possible water damage to the interior and walls, as back then the cabin was not f/glass, but a thin layer of mat or just paint over timber, and not great timber at that. The window replacement hints at that being a real possibility.

Having said all that, however, they are lovely seaworthy and sea-kindly vessels and a delight to cruise in. So don't be too put off. Just be alert, but not too alarmed. Much of the cosmetic deterioration can be restored by the DYI approach if you are keen.
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 12:25 AM   #7
Guru
 
Comodave's Avatar
 
City: Au Gres, MI
Country: US
Vessel Name: Never Say Never
Vessel Model: President 41 DC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,935
Good luck, hope it goes well.
Comodave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 12:25 AM   #8
Guru
 
BruceK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,335
That`s 2 common and expensive items fixed. As Peter says, look to see how far the knock on problems from a failing deck went before the fix was done, tanks being a likely victim.
Price, your diagnostic skills, and whether it gets a hard enough run during sea trial to bring out any issues,may help whether to do a mech survey too, it`s your call. Is there a genset, they can be harder to check than engine + gearbox.
__________________
BruceK
Island Gypsy 36 Europa "Doriana"
Sydney Australia
BruceK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 12:49 AM   #9
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
No genset but that's ok. I will purchase a honda 2000 in the future if needed. But thank you for all that have responded so far. I appreciate the experience here, which is why I joined
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 01:50 AM   #10
TF Site Team
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,990
Send a message via Skype™ to Peter B
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mgtgrafix View Post
No genset but that's ok. I will purchase a home a (? Honda) 2000 in the future if needed. But that No (? thank) you for all that have responded so far. I appreciate the experience here, which is why I joined
Voice recognition software is great, but not perfect. You need to proof read before clicking on submit. I find it great for txt messages on the iPhone, as on that it's very good, but some edits nearly always needed. I've been caught out with that too.
__________________
Pete
Peter B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 02:11 AM   #11
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
It's my stupid keyboard. Switched to a note 8 and the keyboard sux. Thanks for the edits. U are spot on lol
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 02:12 AM   #12
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
Edits made Peter lol
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 08:44 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Airstream345's Avatar
 
City: Seattle, WA USA
Country: United States
Vessel Name: FORTITUDE
Vessel Model: Bluewater 40 Pilothouse
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 287
Good luck with your survey. We very recently purchased our old trawler and decided to get both a hull and mechanical survey.

For us it was well worth the expense as the hull survey saved us some significant money on the purchase price (which will still be spent mitigating the survey "list") and the mechanical survey gave us confidence in the machinery to move forward with the purchase.

Keep us posted!
Airstream345 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 11:37 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
City: Rapid City, SD heading back to the PNW
Country: USA
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 183
Don't forget to inspect the electrical wiring, it can be a hidden fire hazard. There are a couple of threads here that reference the problems that bad wiring cause.
mramoo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 11:47 AM   #15
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
I'm pretty sure the surveyor will check but I will be there and make sure. Thank you for that

Quote:
Originally Posted by mramoo View Post
Don't forget to inspect the electrical wiring, it can be a hidden fire hazard. There are a couple of threads here that reference the problems that bad wiring cause.
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 03:17 PM   #16
Guru
 
alormaria's Avatar
 
City: Trenton
Country: USA
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 990
They are fun boats. You'll enjoy it.
__________________
Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader
"Angelina"
alormaria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 03:28 PM   #17
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
Were trying not to get excited because you never know what the survey will bring, its scheduled for the 31st, so we will see.
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 08:16 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
SeaMoose's Avatar
 
City: Anchor Pointe, Ohio
Vessel Name: Sea Moose
Vessel Model: 1976 34' D/C Taiwanese Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 184
I have one of these and have taken everything apart and put it back together countless times pm me anytime.
SeaMoose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 08:24 PM   #19
Veteran Member
 
City: Puyallup, WA
Country: United States
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 63
Thank You SeaMoose!! I will definitely take you up on that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaMoose View Post
I have one of these and have taken everything apart and put it back together countless times pm me anytime.
Mgtgrafix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2018, 10:41 PM   #20
Guru
 
Nomad Willy's Avatar
 
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 14,503
Where does the boat lie now?
$1000 is a chunk of change for many of us. If the boat is very near a mechanic you could, most likely get a survey covering most of engine issues that frequently come up. I moor at LaConner and there is more than one possibility here and perhaps in Everett too.
Look at it from an hourly basis. If you were a mechanic and perhaps even slow in winter and were only a few minutes from a boat spending 1.5 to two hours (two to $300) on a less than a full survey I'll bet you'd do it. You'd probably cover 3/4 or more of the usual survey for 25% of the cost. I wouldn't just throw $1000 down that hole either and I'm assuming this boat has a single engine and is in the water.
Just a thought.
__________________

__________________
Eric

North Western Washington State USA
Nomad Willy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012