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It sure is, but I guess the lack of margin is why they are escorting every ship with a tug. Just in case...
I think Ann and Dorothy are getting more of a workout than they have had in a while.
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It sure is, but I guess the lack of margin is why they are escorting every ship with a tug. Just in case...
I think Ann and Dorothy are getting more of a workout than they have had in a while.
Wifey B: Hot and wet, warm and damp. Humidity is so good for your skin and sinuses. I love it. Miss it when we travel. But seriously, yesterday was a beautiful day.
Wifey B: 88 degrees here. Beautiful day on the water. Sure a lot of people on the docks and boats just packed in. Wonder if something is going on.
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Wifey B: You call 87 degrees brutally hot?
I call yesterday at 87 degrees with cool breezes off the ocean, a perfect day in Paradise.
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Rudder and Propeller Removed from Golden Ray w/ photos
https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/rudder-and-propeller-removed-from-golden-ray
what a job.
https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/rudder-and-propeller-removed-from-golden-ray
what a job.
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boathealer
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Rudder + propeller = 130 tons?!?!?!
WOW.
WOW.
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Love the article stating "Portions of the ship that were removed are being donated to the State of Georgia for use as artificial reefs in areas designated by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources."
As in, where can we dump this stuff and pretend it's beneficial.
And a barrier/cofferdam may still be on the table. "Details plans for the remainder of the salvage are yet to be released, but the Unified Command is seeking proposals for the construction of a barrier to protect the environment while the wreck is disassembled. "
No doubt the owners are still thinking how much "less worse" (aka "less expensive") this would have been if it'd only sunk just a few more miles out to sea.
Any word on whether they've removed any of the vehicles?
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Note to self. If you are going to lose your boat, do it completely, and do it in deep, open water. Not that we get to plan such events, but just sayin’
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"Portions of the ship that were removed are being donated to the State of Georgia for use as artificial reefs in areas designated by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources."
I wish we had some of that for NJ reefs.
I wish we had some of that for NJ reefs.
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They won't be pretending anything, these sort of reefs are very beneficial.
Most of Florida’s reefs are artificial with over 3000 created. Those reefs really help substain recreational diving and sport fisheries.
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I wonder what the salvage value is for that propeller?
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It is a good thing to make some more artificial reefs. But they act like they are doing a great thing by donating it when it is a huge cost savings for them. Just wish they would not act like they are being so altruistic...
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Remember 'how wonderful' creating an artificial reef out of tires?
Now they are spending even more money to get them back out of the ocean.
Perhaps, they should consider recycling that prop and the rudder. Use them to make more props and maybe the rudder as scrap metal, recycling in the blast furnaces.
NYC used to take barges out each day, filled with trash and garbage, and dump them far out to sea.
We have got to stop using our oceans as a dumping ground.
Now they are spending even more money to get them back out of the ocean.
Perhaps, they should consider recycling that prop and the rudder. Use them to make more props and maybe the rudder as scrap metal, recycling in the blast furnaces.
NYC used to take barges out each day, filled with trash and garbage, and dump them far out to sea.
We have got to stop using our oceans as a dumping ground.
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Bermuda has/had a disposal area for old cars, they called it a reef.
Now they are spending even more money to eliminate this 'reef'.
Now they are spending even more money to eliminate this 'reef'.
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I saw the propeller and tube assembly on deck before I left job on Wednesday morning. all the equipment came in on Tuesday night for wx.
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That’s because they just dumped them over board. To do it properly you need to remove all fluids and oils, then steam clean the inside of the tanks, drop the oil pans and steam clean the inside of the sump and engine, remove the batteries, and any other pollutants. This is not cheap.
If you are sinking a ship for a diving reef you also have to open entrances into the hull and remove any pipes or internal structures that could endanger a recreational level diver. This includes cables and chain as well as rigging. When these ships go under they are cleaner than when they were built!
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The Coast Guard cutter I was stationed on became a reef in John C Pennycamp Park in Key Largo along with her sistership the "Duane".
It gives rec divers some fun.
It gives rec divers some fun.
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Just got the word yesterday that Donjon will be demobbing next week. We didn't get the wreck removal contract and the emergency OPA 90 part of the job has been completed.
We will be turning the wreck over to the contractor T and T from Texas. We have worked with them on past projects and they are very capable.
After a week or so of equipment load out and securing the crane barges for sea, we will be headed back to NY. It was a surprise and disappointment not to get the wreck removal but it still was a massive job removing the haz liquids from the tanks and flooded engine room.
We will be turning the wreck over to the contractor T and T from Texas. We have worked with them on past projects and they are very capable.
After a week or so of equipment load out and securing the crane barges for sea, we will be headed back to NY. It was a surprise and disappointment not to get the wreck removal but it still was a massive job removing the haz liquids from the tanks and flooded engine room.
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https://gcaptain.com/golden-ray-salvage-moving-to-wreck-removal-phase/
"The salvage of the Golden Ray car carrier near the Port of Brunswick in Georgia is is moving into wreck removal phase now four months since the ship grounded."
No significant details presented as to what that 'removal phase' will entail.
"The salvage of the Golden Ray car carrier near the Port of Brunswick in Georgia is is moving into wreck removal phase now four months since the ship grounded."
No significant details presented as to what that 'removal phase' will entail.
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The Brunswick News ran a story this morning that is so beyond comprehension, I had to read it three times to be sure I wasn't missing something.
While completely unannounced by the Unified Command, and only exposed after the Altamaha Riverkeeper group discovered the application to the Army Corps of Engineers, the plan is truly unbelievable. Now I know why Donjon/SMIT was sent packing so that T&T Salvage could be brought in. It appears they bid about $50 to do this job.
So, here's the plan. They are going to install a HUGE mesh net of 1.4 million square feet. The purpose of this _mesh_ net is environmental containment. The net will be supported by 140 (yes 140) foot-long piles embedded up to 80 feet below the seabed. They will need 50-80 piles. It seems well thought out, no? 50-80. Kind of a broad range. And 140 foot long piles driven 80 feet down in 20 feet of water leaves 40! feet above the surface. Huh?
Some sort of barrier will be installed at the base of the net to prevent scouring.
A float barrier would run along the surface of the net with boom-like material. This ginormous contraption is supposed to contain the estimated 40,000 sources of pollutants on the Golden Ray. Right.
But it gets better. T&T claims that after the net is installed they are going to cut the ship into pieces and ALL OF THE LARGE PIECES WILL BE REMOVED BY JUNE. Of 2020. I kid you not.
Now, as I have confessed previously, I am no marine salvage expert. But this entire concept seems so beyond the realm of life here on planet Earth that my head is spinning. I do not believe a net has ever been deployed as an environmental barrier in a case like this. Ever. And, the last time I looked, it took quite a bit of time to set up all the equipment and saw through a car carrier. Oh, and they will have to do all this while working around a massive net. In five months. With an 8' tidal range. And lots of current.
There is a public comment period for the Corp which ends Tuesday, February 4. Yes, that's right, they are giving us less than a week to chime in on what is clearly an effort to mitigate cost while exposing the area to significant environmental harm. The Unified Command has gone very quiet lately with the latest public update on January 7 announcing the hiring of T&T. No notice at all of the application to the Corp, the plan, or the comment period. Hmmm, I wonder why...
Now maybe these folks from T&T in Texas are really clever, like the ones who put man on the moon fifty years ago. And maybe this will all happen without spilling a drop. But I got $50 says NFW.
While completely unannounced by the Unified Command, and only exposed after the Altamaha Riverkeeper group discovered the application to the Army Corps of Engineers, the plan is truly unbelievable. Now I know why Donjon/SMIT was sent packing so that T&T Salvage could be brought in. It appears they bid about $50 to do this job.
So, here's the plan. They are going to install a HUGE mesh net of 1.4 million square feet. The purpose of this _mesh_ net is environmental containment. The net will be supported by 140 (yes 140) foot-long piles embedded up to 80 feet below the seabed. They will need 50-80 piles. It seems well thought out, no? 50-80. Kind of a broad range. And 140 foot long piles driven 80 feet down in 20 feet of water leaves 40! feet above the surface. Huh?
Some sort of barrier will be installed at the base of the net to prevent scouring.
A float barrier would run along the surface of the net with boom-like material. This ginormous contraption is supposed to contain the estimated 40,000 sources of pollutants on the Golden Ray. Right.
But it gets better. T&T claims that after the net is installed they are going to cut the ship into pieces and ALL OF THE LARGE PIECES WILL BE REMOVED BY JUNE. Of 2020. I kid you not.
Now, as I have confessed previously, I am no marine salvage expert. But this entire concept seems so beyond the realm of life here on planet Earth that my head is spinning. I do not believe a net has ever been deployed as an environmental barrier in a case like this. Ever. And, the last time I looked, it took quite a bit of time to set up all the equipment and saw through a car carrier. Oh, and they will have to do all this while working around a massive net. In five months. With an 8' tidal range. And lots of current.
There is a public comment period for the Corp which ends Tuesday, February 4. Yes, that's right, they are giving us less than a week to chime in on what is clearly an effort to mitigate cost while exposing the area to significant environmental harm. The Unified Command has gone very quiet lately with the latest public update on January 7 announcing the hiring of T&T. No notice at all of the application to the Corp, the plan, or the comment period. Hmmm, I wonder why...
Now maybe these folks from T&T in Texas are really clever, like the ones who put man on the moon fifty years ago. And maybe this will all happen without spilling a drop. But I got $50 says NFW.
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That article appears gone. I did see one where they set a car on fire with a cutting torch. The on scene T&T fire brigade put it out.
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Well, it was certainly in today’s print edition of the paper, front page, but it does appear to have been removed from the web site. Some strange stuff going on around here...
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I don’t know of anything that you can get done for $50 now a days...
mcboatface
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Here is some interesting reading:
https://www.sas.usace.army.mil/Portals/61/docs/Regulatory/publicnotices/408-SAS-2020-0001-Glynn-0204.pdf?ver=2020-01-28-151449-233
https://www.sas.usace.army.mil/Portals/61/docs/Regulatory/publicnotices/408-SAS-2020-0001-Glynn-0204.pdf?ver=2020-01-28-151449-233
mcboatface
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The Brunswick News site has fixed the error which caused the piece to vanish from their home page:
https://thebrunswicknews.com
https://thebrunswicknews.com
