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Old 10-24-2015, 09:36 PM   #21
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I have the same problem on a small area on the SB side. Mine is gelcoat, I've thought about getting some bilge paint to make a fix but not sure how that would work out.


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If the gelcoat is peeling in an area, it's most likely poor surface prep. Sand the area down to the fiberglass, wipe down with acetone, and go back with 2 or 3 layers of gelcoat.

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Old 10-24-2015, 10:11 PM   #22
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Ted;
Thanks for taking the time to be so detailed. You obviously are happy and proud of the work.

I have three follow ups, for now.

Two coats total?
You also did the topsides I believe; was that more challenging?
Walking beside a clean, shiny boat, is there an easy way to tell if it is paint or gel?
Besides the Hatteras plaque, that is.
1. Awlgrip recommends 3 coats of top coat (there are numerous layers of primer and ultra build below it). The first coat is light (a dusting), followed by two normal layers. Best way to describe it, it's easier to paint over a previous coat (less likely to run). Sean's first coat is about normal. The second coat is thicker (uses more paint). There are 2 primer colors, grey and white. Pick the primer closest to your color. He shot the Matterhorn white and the Ice Blue over white primer. It only took to coats to get full color coverage (he was prepared to shoot a third if necessary). The Corinthian Blue was shot over the Ice Blue ( after the Ice Blue cured and was lightly sanded). The Corinthian Blue took 3 coats to reach full coverage and Sean was prepared to shoot a 4th. The further your top coat color is from your primer, the more likely additional coats will be necessary.

2. The hull was more challenging because of the size and it would look really bad if there noticeable seams. The top sides were done in maybe 6 sections. So each section was much smaller than the hull. Where to have the seams and make them all but unnoticeable is tough. There is some special foam painters tape that you use for the second paint of a seam. It absorbs the paint at the edge to eliminate the raised hard seam that normally results from masking tape.

3. If the paint and gelcoat are near new, it's tougher. I don't think gelcoat shines quite as much as top quality new paint. Sean can tell the difference, almost always. I'm not that good.

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Old 10-24-2015, 10:19 PM   #23
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Sonbody told me Awlgrip was $1000 per foot on a 30' vessel. Can it really be that much? And is it really considered "paint"? Other than "coating" what else could it be?
My guess is that price includes sanding, prepping, maybe some fairing, several coats of primer, more sanding, and several coats of top coat. Cost of painting varies hugely based on preparation for painting. Sadly, a high price doesn't guarantee great results. Lots of shareltons in the boat restoration business.

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Thanks again for taking the time to lay it all out for us, Ted.
Especially on a Saturday night.
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