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06-16-2015, 08:52 AM
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The Pacific 'Blob'
A massive, stationary blob of warm water has been lingering off the coast of Pacific Northwest USA, extends past Canada's BC North Coast, and has pushed up into Alaska.
Skipjack Tuna off Alaska's Copper River and Olive Sea Turtles off Prince Rupert, BC. Things are gonna get weird (rare species, squirrelly weather, salmon?) for a while...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob_(Pacific_Ocean)
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06-16-2015, 09:34 AM
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When this has happened in the past we see large sun fish, sea turtles and schools of tuna off the coast of Sitka. The tuna fishing can be great.
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06-16-2015, 09:43 AM
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This ones different though, in that it's not a seasonal El Nino event...it's been there since 2013.
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06-16-2015, 11:53 AM
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Alaskans for global warming! Our goal? Return Alaska to the tropical paradise it was 10,000 years ago!
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06-16-2015, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
Alaskans for global warming! Our goal? Return Alaska to the tropical paradise it was 10,000 years ago!
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Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting
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06-16-2015, 02:00 PM
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Well I was guesstamating.....
I flew over the inside passage on Sunday on my way back from Alaska and could identify different areas cause I have been looking at way to many maps. Can't wait to get up there next spring.
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06-16-2015, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting
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...and that wasn't human caused either!
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06-16-2015, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
I flew over the inside passage on Sunday on my way back from Alaska and could identify different areas cause I have been looking at way to many maps. Can't wait to get up there next spring.
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Saw Savary Island from a jet when I was a kid, and just had to visit it when we sea kayaked the coast about 15 years later. It was singularly exotic, just as suspected. Basically it's an arbutus and forest covered sand dune with palatial log homes, some apparently from the 1930's.
When I fly now it's the heads of looooong channels and inlets which cut into BC's Coast Mountains that call the most.
Here's hoping cold water dependant species don't take too much of a hit if the blob stays put...
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06-16-2015, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
...and that wasn't human caused either!
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I didn't say or insinuate the 'Blob' was human caused.
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06-16-2015, 03:05 PM
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If one has an interest in Savary Island they would do well to read Spillsbury's Coast. Spillsbury grew up on Savary in the 1930s or thereabouts and went on to get into the radio manufacturing and sales business and later started a coastal airline. He supplied and serviced many of the communication radios that were used in the logging communities, canneries, etc along the BC coast.
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06-17-2015, 06:44 PM
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06-17-2015, 06:56 PM
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Re post #5 by Murray.
Did the Queen Charlotte Islands exist 10,000 years ago?
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06-17-2015, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manyboats
Re post #5 by Murray.
Did the Queen Charlotte Islands exist 10,000 years ago?
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Actually, I don't think so. There was a level plain between the 'mainland' and the 'islands' during the last ice age. Recent improvements in sonar technology have resulted in discoveries of stone fishing weirs built on river estuaries that now sit at the bottom of Hecate Strait.
Was that a trick question?
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06-17-2015, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
I didn't say or insinuate the 'Blob' was human caused.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting
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...and that wasn't human caused either!
Clearly, i was referring to the previous Ice Age warming temps, melt, and rising sea levels as noted by my quoted text.
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06-17-2015, 08:41 PM
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Diversion of Fraser River sockeye through Johnstone Strait is forecast to be an unprecedented 96%. Several years ago Humbolt squid invaded BC waters. We encountered them in our test fisheries. We haven't seen them since. Perhaps they will return this year.
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06-17-2015, 09:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
Clearly, i was referring to the previous Ice Age warming temps, melt, and rising sea levels as noted by my quoted text.
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Sorry...not so clear at this end...thought you were saying I believed the Blob was human caused.
Humbolt Squid? They're nasty!
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06-18-2015, 12:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
Sorry...not so clear at this end...thought you were saying I believed the Blob was human caused. ...
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Well, I thought it WAS human. Namely a large politician from Queensland,(a state of) Australia.
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06-18-2015, 06:10 PM
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This is an interesting note from NMFS on this subject.
http://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/news/featu...hain/index.cfm
Not good news.
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06-18-2015, 07:41 PM
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Greetings,
Has anyone considered Fukoshima radiation as being the cause?
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06-18-2015, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JDCAVE
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Interesting article. Fits with a Pacific El Nino predicted here, a warmer period with reduced rainfall. Distressing for some farmers who have not got a crop in for 3 years, while some others do well. Despite the prediction, currently we have abundant rain, in rural parts as well as coastal.
I doubt it relates to Fukushima. A cycle of drought and flood is well established since first colonization. World overpopulation is likely contributing to the more extreme events, in my uneducated view.
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