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Old 06-18-2015, 09:50 PM   #21
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Has anyone considered Fukoshima radiation as being the cause?
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:17 PM   #22
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Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting
Humans were able to occupy North America because the western and southern portions of Alaska were warmer then now.

The North American ice sheet was centered on Hudson's Bay and that sheet ice was kept rest of the coastal ranges, though some individual glaciers were larger then today.

As for the blob, we seen to have a tendency to think that just because WE never measured some phenomena before, it's new and therefore human caused.
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Hi Bruce.

The pope just said overpopulation has nothing to do with it, now 1.2 billion followers can continue breeding like rabbits free of guilt. lol

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Old 06-18-2015, 11:11 PM   #24
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Hi Bruce.

The pope just said overpopulation has nothing to do with it, now 1.2 billion followers can continue breeding like rabbits free of guilt. lol

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I heard that too, and like you, I wondered. He seems much more progressive than some predecessors, I`m hoping it`s early days, but....
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:36 AM   #25
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Humans were able to occupy North America because the western and southern portions of Alaska were warmer then now.

The North American ice sheet was centered on Hudson's Bay and that sheet ice was kept rest of the coastal ranges, though some individual glaciers were larger then today.
All the mountains on the north coast of BC under 5,500 feet high are rounded and smooth because they were under ice...all the taller mountains have pointed tops because they were taller than the ice was thick.

Here's an illustration from Vancouver BC's Simon Fraser University (looks like an ice sheet and a wee bit colder than today to me )
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It is my understanding that there is an Ice Age every 10.000 years and we are about half way between cycles, so it is understandable if the ice and ice shelfs start to receed.

The Earth is much more dynamic than we uunderstand today.

I am not a Chicken Little and I take the long view on events surrounding climate and weather.

2015 apparently the hottest on record, well records have only been taken for just over 100 yrs so this is such a small sample on which to base records.

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This warm water event could vary well have happened on a regular basis in the past...would be easy enough to find out by studying ocean sediment core samples for alternating layers of cold and warm water dependant microscopic organisms.

The Earth appears to have self regulating mechanisms which keep it from getting too cold or too hot and naturally oscillates between ice ages and warm periods. We may cause some ripples, but Nature will find balance in the end.

(It's a 100,000 year cycle isn't it?)
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It is my understanding that there is an Ice Age every 10.000 years and we are about half way between cycles, so it is understandable if the ice and ice shelfs start to receed.

The Earth is much more dynamic than we uunderstand today.

I am not a Chicken Little and I take the long view on events surrounding climate and weather.

2015 apparently the hottest on record, well records have only been taken for just over 100 yrs so this is such a small sample on which to base records.

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Actually, yes AND this is one of the big indications that global warming has broken this cycle.

It does seem obvious to me that without humans we risks probably already be entering the next ice age.

My issue with this whole debate is that we should be thankful that that cycle appears changed, otherwise much of the land used for food production would be under ice.

But having said that, I also don't believe once we got the climate ball rolling in a different direction, we can new change it like a yo yo. That's the definition of hubris.

The debate we should be having is not the size of your car, but how to best desk with a warming Earth.
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As for the blob, we seem to have a tendency to think that just because WE never measured some phenomena before, it's new and therefore human caused.
That's pretty much my view on this climate debate.

I'm getting tired of reporters that seem to think that history started the day they were born. (Example: When reporting on the war in Iraq, the headline might be "23 killed in Iraq today!" My God, did they ever read about the daily fatalities in WWI & II? Or how about the casualties in the Civil War? These "kids" that we are getting our news from are the same ones that yell "fire" in a crowded theater. (Whew!...sorry for the rant.)
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