Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 10-18-2014, 09:57 PM   #181
Art
Guru
 
Art's Avatar
 
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler View Post
While in route from Indiantown FL to Stuart, FL on the east coast, I came across this backyard built, trailer-able trawlette set up for single or twin outboards. All glass, it must have been a lot of careful labor, but it was on its way to Indiantown to be sold. Reportedly, the hull design is a proven Wellcraft 25. No more to be built, so the owner/builder says...so, one of a kind.
Wonder what inside looks like?

Wonder cruise and top speeds?

Best mileage at hull speed or just below using one o/b?

Seems it could be a fairly nice pocket trawler!
__________________
Advertisement

Art is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2014, 04:17 AM   #182
Senior Member
 
Fish Catcher Jim's Avatar
 
City: Kalamazoo
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 137
The pictures in the OP seem to me to be very similar to an alaskan pilot house offshore such as a wooldridge or duckworth or kingfisher and so on.
__________________

Fish Catcher Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2014, 09:18 PM   #183
Guru
 
healhustler's Avatar
 
City: Longboat Key, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,181
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art View Post
Wonder what inside looks like?

Wonder cruise and top speeds?

Best mileage at hull speed or just below using one o/b?

Seems it could be a fairly nice pocket trawler!
Art: Inside is unfinished, although walls are there to do what you wish. Handling and speed, who knows, but a heavy 25 ft. Wellcraft might be similar in behavior. The whole thing seems to be of good quality build.
__________________
Larry

"I'd rather be happy than dignified".
healhustler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2017, 06:35 PM   #184
Veteran Member
 
IronZebra's Avatar
 
City: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Country: US
Vessel Model: Hot Air Balloon for Now
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 29
Old thread but if someone else comes upon it like me they may want to scoot over to this new one.

New Trawler Build: Introduction and First Question
IronZebra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 07:38 AM   #185
FF
Guru
 
FF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,531
IF you want a boat that can either have the engine easily changed or converted to an outboard , I would look at older sail boats .The old engine comes out of a cockpit hatch.

Yes ,you are down IN the boat rather than up 2-3 stories looking at the water, but the price is right ,the construction is better, and usually the sea keeping /sea worthyness is far better than a powered roomaran.
FF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 07:58 AM   #186
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,275
"Roomaran", you just made me snort my coffee!
The things I learn on this site...
Bruce
Bruce B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 08:26 AM   #187
Senior Member
 
City: Owings, Md
Country: US
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 224
Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler View Post
While in route from Indiantown FL to Stuart, FL on the east coast, I came across this backyard built, trailer-able trawlette set up for single or twin outboards. All glass, it must have been a lot of careful labor, but it was on its way to Indiantown to be sold. Reportedly, the hull design is a proven Wellcraft 25. No more to be built, so the owner/builder says...so, one of a kind.
I would be very curious about the handling of this boat. The hull looks like the 25' 1989 Wellcraft Sportsman that was in our family for 16 years and while it was a great boat, it was sensitive to trim (trim tabs were a must)and tender at rest due to it's 18 degree deadrise. It handled a head sea great and it was a fine hull for its purpose. It had a 260 hp mercruiser I/O which provided which placed ~1000 lbs down low. Many of these boats were outboard powered so they had a higher center of gravity but this trawler configuration would raise the CG quite a bit. The cockpit deck on ours was only a 2-5" inches above the waterline and the deck was about 10" higher than the cockpit but was well bellow the gunnel height. This trawler would significantly raise the height of the live loads. I am also curious how much the superstructure weights.


Edit: Looking at the pictures again, I really can't tell what the deck heights are inside the cabin. The superstructure may look higher than it really is due to the camera angle.
Gdavid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 02:36 PM   #188
Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,291
Once again and all through this long thread and many similar threads the over ridding question is what is a trawler and what is not. Many boats discussed here would easily fit into other categories. The big problem is we can not define what is a trawler with any accuracy so we can't say what is not. I see no problem with OB power on a big or medium or pocket cruising boat I am not sure I would consider many a trawler. In some cases are we dealing with a boat well suited to cruising or a hybrid and of course it does not matter to the boat owner. While there are no standards for a trawler there are some boats that seem to stretch the non existent definition farther than others. Soon the 200 HP diesel OB engines being developed and soon marketed will change the whole concept of OB powered cruising boats.
eyschulman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 02:58 PM   #189
Art
Guru
 
Art's Avatar
 
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyschulman View Post
Once again and all through this long thread and many similar threads the over ridding question is what is a trawler and what is not. Many boats discussed here would easily fit into other categories. The big problem is we can not define what is a trawler with any accuracy so we can't say what is not. I see no problem with OB power on a big or medium or pocket cruising boat I am not sure I would consider many a trawler. In some cases are we dealing with a boat well suited to cruising or a hybrid and of course it does not matter to the boat owner. While there are no standards for a trawler there are some boats that seem to stretch the non existent definition farther than others. Soon the 200 HP diesel OB engines being developed and soon marketed will change the whole concept of OB powered cruising boats.
OB's will be an aft intrusion placement regarding play-time-space/COG-weight-distribution/back-collision factors. Unless of course... a through hull opening/conduit were to be placed somewhere inside the boat. If the through hull conduit was to be placed then it seems that due to hull/keel needs there would be requirement for twin screw o/b's in order to keep port/starboard thrusts equalized. Sound and exhaust could be a problem. Ease of service top ends may be easy. Haul out for replacement may be made easy by having hatch directly above. Prop and gear areas would probably stay in water and need to be constructed thusly.

Art is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 03:36 PM   #190
Guru
 
City: Satsuma FL
Country: United States
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,681
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art View Post
OB's will be an aft intrusion placement regarding play-time-space/COG-weight-distribution/back-collision factors. Unless of course... a through hull opening/conduit were to be placed somewhere inside the boat. If the through hull conduit was to be placed then it seems that due to hull/keel needs there would be requirement for twin screw o/b's in order to keep port/starboard thrusts equalized. Sound and exhaust could be a problem. Ease of service top ends may be easy. Haul out for replacement may be made easy by having hatch directly above. Prop and gear areas would probably stay in water and need to be constructed thusly.
Could you translate this into Dick and Jane language for the sake of us old folks?
Donsan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 04:45 PM   #191
Art
Guru
 
Art's Avatar
 
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
OB's will be an aft intrusion placement regarding play-time-space [swim step] /COG [center of gravity] -weight-distribution/back-collision [maneuvers in reverse] factors. Unless of course... a through hull opening/conduit [similar to 55 gallon drum attached to hull bottom and open on top and bottom with o/b attached with prop in water] were to be placed somewhere inside the boat. If the through hull conduit was to be placed then it seems that due to hull/keel [space not available in hull center of side to side measurement] needs there would be requirement for twin screw o/b's in order to keep port/starboard thrusts equalized [two through hull opening/conduit to get o/b's either side of keel] . Sound and exhaust could be a problem [noisy and smelly/dangerous to inner boat portions]. Ease of service top ends my be easy [pull off o/b cowling for tune up etc]. Haul out for replacement may be made easy by having hatch directly above [pull entire o/b straight up and drop in new o/b]. Prop and gear areas would probably stay in water and need to be constructed thusly [anti corrosion materials and good seals].

Dick and Jane may like outboard power!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan View Post
Could you translate this into Dick and Jane language for the sake of us old folks?
See above:
Art is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 05:29 PM   #192
Guru
 
City: Satsuma FL
Country: United States
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,681
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
OB's will be an aft intrusion placement regarding play-time-space [swim step] /COG [center of gravity] -weight-distribution/back-collision [maneuvers in reverse] factors. Unless of course... a through hull opening/conduit [similar to 55 gallon drum attached to hull bottom and open on top and bottom with o/b attached with prop in water] were to be placed somewhere inside the boat. If the through hull conduit was to be placed then it seems that due to hull/keel [space not available in hull center of side to side measurement] needs there would be requirement for twin screw o/b's in order to keep port/starboard thrusts equalized [two through hull opening/conduit to get o/b's either side of keel] . Sound and exhaust could be a problem [noisy and smelly/dangerous to inner boat portions]. Ease of service top ends my be easy [pull off o/b cowling for tune up etc]. Haul out for replacement may be made easy by having hatch directly above [pull entire o/b straight up and drop in new o/b]. Prop and gear areas would probably stay in water and need to be constructed thusly [anti corrosion materials and good seals].

Dick and Jane may like outboard power!!




See above:
Thanks for trying!!! Maybe I need to see a neurologist....
Donsan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 05:53 PM   #193
Guru
 
City: kemah
Country: USA
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 997
Theres a pretty good sized trawler in the marina next to me that has 4 outboards hanging off the integral swim platform. Looks pretty nice from a distance and it looks factory set up. Maybe someday ill be able to get a get a pic of it.
what_barnacles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 06:06 PM   #194
Guru
 
healhustler's Avatar
 
City: Longboat Key, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,181
Quote:
Originally Posted by what_barnacles View Post
Theres a pretty good sized trawler in the marina next to me that has 4 outboards hanging off the integral swim platform.
A big trawler with four outboards. Well now, that about completes the spectrum of possibilities, I'd say.
__________________
Larry

"I'd rather be happy than dignified".
healhustler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 08:21 PM   #195
Art
Guru
 
Art's Avatar
 
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 7,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan View Post
Thanks for trying!!! Maybe I need to see a neurologist....
Don't be too hard on yourself!!
__________________

Art is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012