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Old 08-14-2016, 06:54 PM   #201
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Did car designers miss an opportunity to incorporate the FB on cars? You could drive up there nice days, down below other times.

Oh my gosh Bruce you slay me
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Did car designers miss an opportunity to incorporate the FB on cars? You could drive up there nice days, down below other times.
Great idea! It's a hit on boats!
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:06 PM   #204
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Ok I've drained the hot tub and will get serious... First since we live aboard I'm looking around the marina and the harbor fully 95% of power boats over 35ft have a fly bridge... A few Sea Rays and a couple of smaller express type boats don't... However to get back to the "ice cream boat" I see when they are not fishing in Alaska most seiners have top houses which is just a enclosed fly bridge... Even the larger gill netters up there have top houses sure some don't, but for most visibility trumps the little increase of instability... I personally operate this old gal from up top 100% of the time.
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:28 PM   #205
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Did car designers miss an opportunity to incorporate the FB on cars? You could drive up there nice days, down below other times.
Boat designers have missed the mark by not having true convertibles, 100% automatic. Only a couple of builders have done that.
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:44 PM   #206
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Do you think there is a remote possibility that the NA actually took the weight of the fly bridge into account when the boat was designed? And, as designed it is quite stable? I have no idea how many fly bridge boats exist, but I do know that if they were inherently dangerous or less than seaworthy there would not be many of them around.

From my perspective, and this is just me personally and not a critique of anyone else's preferences, I couldn't imagine boating from the inside all the time. I love the view, the sounds, and the breeze from the top. However, as I said, that's me.

I have two cars. One is a two-door coupe and the other is a convertible. Guess which I drive when the weather is beautiful (if I can pry it out of my wife's hands)? Is the convertible inherently more dangerous than the coupe? Perhaps, however we assume the risk for the enjoyment. We take a risk just getting out of bed in the morning.
Not as much as the health risk of staying too long in the bed every morning!! LOL
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Not as much as the health risk of staying too long in the bed every morning!! LOL
Wifey B: Are you saying too much time in bed is dangerous? Oh, you don't mean the bed is the danger, you mean specifically sleeping?
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:05 PM   #208
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Wifey B: Are you saying too much time in bed is dangerous? Oh, you don't mean the bed is the danger, you mean specifically sleeping?
Wifey B, I figured you might chime in on my statement!

Bed can offer great opportunity for:

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2. Wonderful sexercise experiences, or... as you allude to;
3. Too damn much sleep and muscle/joint relaxation.

I know which two we practice regularly!! Yeah Baby!!!
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HAHA Bruce,
I thought of that .. even Larry and a photoshop.

But I've made my point and think the issue has gotten more attention than it deserves. Perhaps I should be flattered by so much response but I was'nt keep'in up at one point.

To those that took offense .. Sorry.

Fly bridges aren't ideal from a standpoint of CG and windage. But the critique is fly stuff unless the boat is too small. And many exist. But many may think twice before putting an OB and battery on the FB and then have a bunch of people up there. That's what I like to do most ... get people thinking.

Don't over do it Art.
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Fly bridges aren't ideal from a standpoint of CG and windage. .
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HaHa ya got the message Codger.

Go easy on the old horse.
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Seriously, (for a moment), what is the origin of the FB? My suspicion is it came into broader use for game fishing boats, for all round visibility in maneuvers and better forward visibility looking for possible prey. Did Hemingway`s boats have FBs?
Sailing ships had high observation points, the "crows nest" as it was called, early steamships had a semi enclosed post on the mast, both accessible by climbing.

I`m happy without one. My first power boat had a classic FB deck,ladder access,fenced, but no helm fitted. The IG has a proper FB with helm we rarely use it. If I swap the IG for something else, I won`t be concerned whether there is a FB, but would not rule out a boat with FB if the boat is otherwise good, though I`d miss the easy place for panels.
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:20 PM   #213
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Seriously, (for a moment), what is the origin of the FB? .
They go back at least to World War I when they were on Warships.
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:22 PM   #214
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When you are down below and look out the side door and watch the water going by it seems like you are going faster,when you are up top it feels a lot slower lol
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Seriously, (for a moment), what is the origin of the FB? My suspicion is it came into broader use for game fishing boats, for all round visibility in maneuvers and better forward visibility looking for possible prey. Did Hemingway`s boats have FBs?
Sailing ships had high observation points, the "crows nest" as it was called, early steamships had a semi enclosed post on the mast, both accessible by climbing.

I`m happy without one. My first power boat had a classic FB deck,ladder access,fenced, but no helm fitted. The IG has a proper FB with helm we rarely use it. If I swap the IG for something else, I won`t be concerned whether there is a FB, but would not rule out a boat with FB if the boat is otherwise good, though I`d miss the easy place for panels.
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Origins of the "Flying Bridge"

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Thought I would never quote this source. God, save me!

Origins of the "Flying Bridge"

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its OK Ted.....came upon the same during my search...

And on this particular subject he was probably correct.

At least now we won't get 10 more pages of justification if someone disagrees wit bigger "facts"
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Fly bridges aren't ideal from a standpoint of CG and windage.
Neither are cabins, but I'm not hearing much comment on that weight and windage. Maybe you could convert Willy to center console to get even closer to the waterline. Even on smaller boats, whether a fly bridge may be an issue might depend on how aloft it actually is. If you can stand in the cockpit and look above the FB floor, that's not stretching the aloft factor much at all. And, a simple front shell and a few single seats like on a Camano 31 Troll isn't adding much for either weight or windage. Sure, many are higher and/or heavier, but they are not all to the same degree. Speaking of unnecessary windage effects, putting the kayaks or dinghy on top of Willy probably doesn't help with that either, yet that seems acceptable to you. The term double standard comes to my mind. It does make me think, though, but probably not entirely in the way you intended.

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Just feeding the fire.....

Though entirely correct.....
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Not nice Tim. Plus it inspired another psn "post and delete" jab.
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