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05-24-2016, 03:42 PM
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#41
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcpip95
It appears that you have a 370 gallon tank (couldn't find your exact boat, but an '83, 47' show that tank size). If you only added 43 gallons (I think that's what you said) I'm sceptical that the fuel from the dock would have had that much water in it to stall you out.
The sloshing in the boat would have actually helped you (somewhat) as water is heavier than gasoline, so the water would settle to the bottom when sitting, and gotten somewhat mixed while underway. Your tank feeds fuel from the bottom, so the first thing it would have drawn after sitting would be water.
Hmmm.......
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As to your comment about water settling when sitting, that's why we think the issue would have made itself known before. The PO hadn't used the boat in a while when we went for our sea trial so it had been sitting and the engines cranked right up and so did generator. Then it sat again for a few weeks until we closed on it. It was then moved from his slip to ours. Then two days later we took it out for a couple of hours and again, cranked right up and ran fine. Then it sat for another week before we took it out again. So like I said it's just awfully councidental that mixtures after putting fuel in everything just shut down at once and we find water. If I'm not mistaken and hubby can correct me if I am, I think we still had somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of the tank when we added the fuel.
But mechanic is coming tomorrow morning so we'll see what he says. At this point it really doesn't matter...marina where we bought fuel said they didn't have any water in their tank and we don't have any way to prove they did if that's what happened. So we'll just get it taken care of but we will never get fuel there again.
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05-24-2016, 03:48 PM
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#42
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ski in NC
Not easy to pin a water in fuel issue on a vendor, especially if they hear about the issue and sneak around to the tank and do a drain.
Pretty rare in my experience for the vendor to actually be the source of water. I'm sure it happens, but rare. Mostly the water gets in from crummy deck fill caps and rain or boat wash water gets in. Why it showed up now?? No clue..
Anyhow, the good thing is water in gas does not really hurt gassers. Get the water out, get them running, then once all ok change the filters. Just don't let them sit in this condition.
Now you are finding out while boats always seem to have so many tools aboard!!!
Figure out how to lance your tank to suck out whatever is in the bottom. That's an essential thing to know how to do on any boat.
Now you are finding out why boats have so many tools on board!!!
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Haha yep. Hubby has been building a toolbox for the boat. I think he finally went and bought a set of something just for the boat. We only live about 5 miles or so from the marina but it's a pain when we need something you didn't think to bring and then have to stop and make a run to the house. But there are several liveaboards in the marina and somebody is bound to have something you need.
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05-24-2016, 06:46 PM
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#43
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Guru
City: Santa Cruz, CA
Vessel Name: Concerto
Vessel Model: 1980 Cheoy Lee
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,531
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Stars,
Dont feel bad, your experiences are similar to many of us, me included, although some of the issues i had were of my own making. After you shake out all the issues, you're boat's problems will occur less frequently.
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05-24-2016, 06:51 PM
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#44
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bligh
Stars,
Dont feel bad, your experiences are similar to many of us, me included, although some of the issues i had were of my own making. After you shake out all the issues, you're boat's problems will occur less frequently.
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I dunno, taking out two tanks and putting a centered one back in is not very similar to me.
Not sure what would have been done to the stringers to achieve that.
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05-24-2016, 07:09 PM
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#45
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
I dunno, taking out two tanks and putting a centered one back in is not very similar to me.
Not sure what would have been done to the stringers to achieve that.
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Hubby is not at all thrilled with this...but it wasn't enough of an issue to deter us from buying the boat. But I guess we'll find out when we get ready to remove it and put two new ones in back where the originals were.
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05-24-2016, 07:11 PM
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#46
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bligh
Stars,
Dont feel bad, your experiences are similar to many of us, me included, although some of the issues i had were of my own making. After you shake out all the issues, you're boat's problems will occur less frequently.
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Haha I'm sure we're gonna have plenty of those too...problems of our own making! Just give us a little time.
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05-24-2016, 07:23 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
City: Ft. Myers, FL
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Star0210
Hubby is not at all thrilled with this...but it wasn't enough of an issue to deter us from buying the boat. But I guess we'll find out when we get ready to remove it and put two new ones in back where the originals were.
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While the tanks are out - in fact, as you go through the whole removal process - keep an eye out for whatever you can repair/replace/clean/paint/etc. while you're in there. Might not ever get as good a chance to get in there again.
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05-24-2016, 07:26 PM
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#48
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcpip95
While the tanks are out - in fact, as you go through the whole removal process - keep an eye out for whatever you can repair/replace/clean/paint/etc. while you're in there. Might not ever get as good a chance to get in there again.
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Agreed...and what's kind of neat is that we have the original owners manual and hubby said it shows a few different configurations for fuel tank placement and stuff. I know he wants to move the battery banks so that they're more easily accessible. I've never actually been in the ER but I watched him and two other guys in there doing some contortionist moves. Shoulda video'd that. Hehehe
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05-24-2016, 07:51 PM
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#49
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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I have zero ownership in this vessel and I am getting stomach butterflies just reading this.
Anyone else?
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05-24-2016, 07:55 PM
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#50
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Guru
City: Houma, Louisiana
Vessel Name: M/V LUNASEA
Vessel Model: 45ft Bluewater Coastal
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 529
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
When the AC unit cycles on temperature, the water pump automatically turns off. Set the AC thermostat to 50 degrees and try it again.
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As I was told by and old salesman for Bluewater in the 90's most of there A/C raw water pumps were wired to run all the time. Mine runs 24/7 when unit on.
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05-24-2016, 08:13 PM
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#51
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Guru
City: Houma, Louisiana
Vessel Name: M/V LUNASEA
Vessel Model: 45ft Bluewater Coastal
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 529
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0210
If it was the marine south of the bridge it seem strange as they sell a good amount of fuel. I have used them when in that area. I have also used that quote " Best $165.00 spent on the boat"
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05-24-2016, 08:18 PM
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#52
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
I have zero ownership in this vessel and I am getting stomach butterflies just reading this.
Anyone else?
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Awww c'mon. Don't be a party pooper.
We love our old boat!
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05-24-2016, 08:20 PM
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#53
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kartracer
0210
If it was the marine south of the bridge it seem strange as they sell a good amount of fuel. I have used them when in that area. I have also used that quote " Best $165.00 spent on the boat"
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They do but I don't know if they sell all that much premium fuel.
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05-24-2016, 08:31 PM
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#54
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Are you two for real?
Or is this just a TF spoof gone viral.
I am beginning to suspect the latter.
So I am out for now.
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05-24-2016, 09:30 PM
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#55
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Guru
City: Madisonville, LA
Vessel Name: Sea Star
Vessel Model: 2004 Cruisers Yachts 50SS
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Are you two for real?
Or is this just a TF spoof gone viral.
I am beginning to suspect the latter.
So I am out for now.
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Umm...of course we're for real.
What exactly is the problem?
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05-24-2016, 09:37 PM
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#56
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Guru
City: Santa Cruz, CA
Vessel Name: Concerto
Vessel Model: 1980 Cheoy Lee
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Are you two for real?
Or is this just a TF spoof gone viral.
I am beginning to suspect the latter.
So I am out for now.
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Probably a wise decision on your part.
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05-24-2016, 09:58 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
City: Ft. Myers, FL
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Star0210
Umm...of course we're for real.
What exactly is the problem?
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You kids seem OK to me! Kinda remind me of these two
Can't wait, as our turn is coming! LOL
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05-24-2016, 10:14 PM
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#58
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Star0210
Umm...of course we're for real.
What exactly is the problem?
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No problem at all. Don't worry about it.
I think you are doing great and will have a great time, and a big education as you move through this process.
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05-24-2016, 10:28 PM
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#59
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Nothing to do with political correctness. If you say you are in for gas he will hand you the gas nozzle and not diesel. That's would be very expensive.
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That's because of the rather strange convention in the US, where you call what we call petrol, (derived from petroleum), gas, when clearly it is not a gas. What we call gas, you have to call propane or butane to make clear what you mean. At least we all call diesel, diesel.
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05-24-2016, 11:51 PM
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#60
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,443
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Stars,
Some people don't understand the joy of the adventure! It's your boat and you can do as you please with her.
The majority of us who do get it will always be willing to share our knowledge.
Always good to share some photos of your projects!
Bob & Jill
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