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Old 10-31-2014, 04:09 PM   #41
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:17 PM   #42
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:45 PM   #43
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In order, FLTR, the AIS transponder (class B) a full blown NMEA2000 network and probably the most important when anchored or docked a great WiFi system.
Since I have all of the above a bow thruster and Dickenson heaters will be next.
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:55 PM   #44
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There was a boat in our yard that was much like a Tolly w ONE full keel. I may have a pic at home in the I-mac but not here. KK does that but keeps the keels as small as possible to (most likely) minimize drag.

Forget about planing if you do that. Probably too much drag. There will be "interplane drag" loss between the two keels but if you can overcome the drag w power the compression between the keels may give you some lift.

You'll have a lot of lateral surface aft from those keels and if they don't extend a long way fwd a bad lateral mismatch will result in a bow easily blown downwind so a big bow thruster could be in order.

Art if you want a keelboat why don't you buy one? Of course we all know the answer to that

Are you concerned about maneuvering in port or on big following seas? Or something else? Save your money Art or spend some on some powerful hydraulic thrusters. Maybe I'm reading you wrong and you just want a boat that's more of a trawler. Seems to me when you came on TF you wanted us to consider your Tolly to Be a trawler. We had quite a discussion on the matter as I recall. I loved my XK140 Jaguar roadster but I sold it and bought a Mercury cause the Merc filled my needs. Never got another Jaguar but I still think about the 140.

If this is serious stuff Art think it out and do/get what you want/need. Look for balance but we only live once. Once in a great while I think of selling Willy and buying a Bently. Choices choices choices. We can do what ever we want. But we've got to live w the results and usually that's fairly predictable if we can have a few moments of objectivity.

If I were you I'd probably do something very different. I'd curve the bottom of the aft part of the boat up to almost the WL and install two 40hp diesels. But the end result would still be a two GPH boat.

The easiest and smartest thing to do is to probably just run what you brung. Not to mention the cheapest. Heard that in car circles a long time ago.
Thanks Eric... but... I think you've got me wrong. I simply want it all!!
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:59 PM   #45
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Thanks Eric... but... I think you've got me wrong. I simply want it all!!
Better go with the ATM, then.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:11 PM   #46
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Better go with the ATM, then.
Yup!!
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:41 PM   #47
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Now that, Marin, is what I call a cognitive dissonance…
I don't believe I ever said I didn't want an autopilot. I believe my statements were all aimed toward making the point that one does nat have to have or use an autopilot to qualify as a "competent" skipper.

If we had no other priorities in front of it, and felt the reward was worth the expense, we'd put an autopilot on the GB. We put one on the other vessel because for what we will be using it for and where we will be using it, the reward will most definitely be worth the expense. Not so much with the GB.

But if expense was not a factor.....
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:49 PM   #48
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An autopilot is a safety device, how else can you get another cold beer without the risk of running out of the channel?




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Old 10-31-2014, 06:07 PM   #49
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An autopilot is a safety device, how else can you get another cold beer without the risk of running out of the channel?




Just kidding!
If you're kidding... why is your boat smiling so widely in your avatar??
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:13 PM   #50
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Don't know, she is a diesel-teetotaler.

But then again she is always happy.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:24 PM   #51
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Dual offset keels; each encasing the shafts

>snip<
Just buy a Marlow and be done with it.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:50 PM   #52
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Just buy a Marlow and be done with it.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:52 PM   #53
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Just buy a Marlow and be done with it.

Or a Nordy !
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:28 PM   #54
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I'll keep my Willard.

Not too much trouble and lots of reward.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:45 PM   #55
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I'll keep my Willard.

Not too much trouble and lots of reward.
Ditto for my Tolly!

"Virtual" Luv can occur between boat and skipper/owner/maintainer... here's two proofs! Many more are on TF... ya can tell by some posts!
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:06 PM   #56
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Auto pilot, maybe next summer, maybe not. Makes long days more relaxing at the helm.
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Old 11-01-2014, 09:46 AM   #57
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We were all set to install a bow thruster this year when we haul out. Instead, I am paying off the last of our debt (car notes and credit cards), and will install the thruster later. It was really nice to walk into Alaska USA FCU and write a check to zero the balance!

The last gets paid off today, and (except for the boat) we are debt free!

Guess I'll just have to deal with perfecting my piloting skills
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:35 AM   #58
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One Gadget, eh? With money no object I'd want a watermaker. Hauling water is the absolute worst part of the boating experience. And I know it would be less costly to go to a marina and pay for dockage but as long as BandB is proposing a financing fairy, that's what I want most of all.

In order of Real Life priorities, this is how it will work:
#1) Auto pilot
#2) Two new 100 watt solar panels and four batts
#3) A tuna door

And somewhere in that list is a purchase of 150' of 1/4" G4 chain, and possibly a 45 pound Mantus. In the meantime I'll swap my chain end for end and let it work a bit longer. The shackle was pounded so it won't come off without a fight. That's next. (sigh)

But not today because it's doggone cold. Skipper is in my lap and unlikely to move until I jiggle her treat bag.
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:42 PM   #59
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Marin I think I'll just stay in the "incompetent" category too.

Haven't run into anything yet except a whale and a log. Having or not having an AP wouldn't have made any difference ..... however if I had been in the head or standing on the foredeck w a remote ......
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