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Old 10-23-2011, 02:03 PM   #1
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As I'm sitting here this morning enjoying my coffee and looking out over the warm ocean from the balcony here in Kona, the urge to go home, cast aside all worldly goods and go offshore trawling is very strong.
So I know it has been discussed many times here, but I'm wondering: has anyone on this forum done a real offshore trawler trip to Hawaii?
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Old 10-23-2011, 02:29 PM   #2
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Considerable discussions on offshore activity Can be found on the Willard Boat Owners Group on Yahoo Groups. I'm sure you'll find lots of other things to read about too.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:35 AM   #3
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Left coast TO Hawaii a milk run,

FROM Hawaii to the continent is a whole different concept.
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:29 PM   #4
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There are*less than*a dozen boat on this forum that might be capable of crossing to Hawaii, but I dont think anybody has the inclination to*make*the crossing?
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There are two member that I remember that have/might have done: 1) A Samoa chief that bought a commercial fishing trawler, live in Idaho, was planning on taking the trawler down the coast and then across the Pacific to Samoa.* I don't know if he ever did*and *2) John, I met at a Passagemaker get together, he bought a 90 ft Delta and cross to Hawaii, up to Dutch Harbor, and down the coast.*John calls me every 6 month or so to caught up, asked when are we going to throw off the lines and meet him.*NOT!
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I have met and talk to a*several boater that have made the crossing and you are either bored to death, or scared to death.* Anyway DEATH seems to be the common thread!**I can maybe understand*cruising up and*down the coast?****
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" I have met and talk to a*several boater that have made the crossing and you are either bored to death, or scared to death.*"

That sounds like Offshore to me....
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Phil Fill wrote:There are*less than*a dozen boat on this forum that might be capable of crossing to Hawaii, but I dont think anybody has the inclination to*make*the crossing?
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There are two member that I remember that have/might have done: 1) A Samoa chief that bought a commercial fishing trawler, live in Idaho, was planning on taking the trawler down the coast and then across the Pacific to Samoa.* I don't know if he ever did*and *2) John, I met at a Passagemaker get together, he bought a 90 ft Delta and cross to Hawaii, up to Dutch Harbor, and down the coast.*John calls me every 6 month or so to caught up, asked when are we going to throw off the lines and meet him.*NOT!
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I have met and talk to a*several boater that have made the crossing and you are either bored to death, or scared to death.* Anyway DEATH seems to be the common thread!**I can maybe understand*cruising up and*down the coast?****
Been there, done that, that bored to death or scared to death open water thing, both in the military and in recreational boating. Coastal cruising in conditions and at times picked by me is the way I prefer it now. My testosterone level must, indeed, be decreasing with age. Funny thing that.
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Been there, done that, that bored to death or scared to death open water thing, both in the military and in recreational boating. Coastal cruising in conditions and at times picked by me is the way I prefer it now.
*My opinion also except for the boring part.

I leave ocean crossings to the professionals on large ships carrying lots of boats.


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*I have met a surprising number of people who have crossed between the west coast and Hawaii (and many of them on to the soutwestern Pacific).* All them have been sailboaters.* And not always big sailboats.* A few had 32 and 36 foot sailboats (double-enders).

While living in Hawaii I met some tug crew members*who made the barge runs between Hawaii and the west coast (usually Seattle) on a regular schedule.* Next week I'm meeing a friend of a friend who just brought a big aluminum power cat from Hawaii to Seattle for drydock work. Then the boat wll be going back to Alaksa to be a passenger ferry.

But I have not met anyone who has taken a recreational*powerboat between the west coast and Hawaii.* There was a fellow who made the trip from Hawaii to the mainland in a Grand Banks 42 some time ago.* He made half the trip on one engine and prop, then dove on the boat midway across, removed the prop he'd been running on, installed the other prop on the other shaft and made the second half of the voyage on the other engine.* But he was very, very lucky and encountered no bad weather during the trip.* Likewise someone took a Great Harbor 37 from the manufacturer on the east coast to Hawaii.* Again, it was primarily a publicity stunt and they had very, very good weather the whole way.

I personally have zero desire to boat in the open Pacific as I did plenty of that in Hawaii when I lived there, both power and sail.* It's great for fishing, and the interisland sailing was fun, but I wouldn't want slog across 3,000 miles of the stuff.* It's not particularly dangerous if the weather cooperates, and I wouldn't say it's boring as there is more life out there than one might think.* But I much prefer the inside salt water environment of the PNW, BC coast, and SE Alaska.* That environment is perfectly in tune with what I want out of life.


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These sailors gave up mid-ocean on their West Coast to Hawaii adventure.
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Mark,

Gave up what?
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:08 PM   #11
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As I'm sitting here this morning enjoying my coffee and looking out over the warm ocean from the balcony here in Kona, the urge to go home, cast aside all worldly goods and go offshore trawling is very strong. So I know it has been discussed many times here, but I'm wondering: has anyone on this forum done a real offshore trawler trip to Hawaii?
*Only sailing there and back a few years ago. *In a sailboat, it is something of an atheletic event (well, sort of), but in a trawler, not so much. *I thought a lot about what I wanted in a trawler based on that experience, and am looking forward to making the trip again.
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On our last boat we traveled to 35 different countries with our longest passage at 24 days and*with many over 10.* What we found was that we were*better travelers than sailors.* Don't get me wrong there was nothing quite as special as being many days from land,*on watch and having horizon to horizon stars.* We used the boat as the mechanism to get us to where we wanted to go.* When we bought Hobo we said we're done crossing oceans.* The idea of doing a 10-20 day passage under power just doesn't' sound appealing.* In the last 12,000 plus miles and 6 more contries our longest passage has been just under 50 hours and that's just about right for us.
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Passage Making on trawlers is done much more than a lot of people think, spend some time on the Nordhavn web site on the owners pages and you will find some. Most of the trawlers on here are not " true" passage makers, but a few are. You need a nominal 3000 mile range and a boat that can really ride out bad weather. When we bought Volunteer she had the range and most of the gear to be a " real " passage maker, but needed modifications to be a safe passage maker.* The Admiral has expressed that she has no desire to cross big oceans again ( we did that on our sail boat in the early 90's ). She has expressed some interest in cruising again on a sailboat ( cat ) as she feels more comfortable with the redundancy of a sailboat. I for one consider myself a mariner... I don't have and real preference.. power or sail.* I did for years really enjoy cruising here in the Northwest with the autopilot steering, sometimes watching a dvd, sitting in the pilot house when it was raining... all toasty with my slippers on.. while passing sailboats with the soaked crew hunkered behind their dodgers!.* I do believe that offshore passage making can be done very safely on a well found power boat. My perfect passage maker in this forum would be Delfin without question.. if cost was of no concern.. it is a remarkable vessel.

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Gave up what?
*They abandoned their boat*so they could continue their passage to Hawaii on the cruise ship Staatendam.

That was on my first ocean cruise, fifteen days from San Diego to Hawaii and return spending time visiting four of the Hawaiian Islands during January 2003.* Rescued three people mid-ocean, and lost one passenger jumping overboard.* Boy, cruising is exciting! *Since then, have missed scheduled ports due to bad weather, have been in a couple of Hurricanes, had mechanical breakdowns, a collision, and so on.* I'm sure it was a lot easier on 900-foot-long ships rather than our little boats.


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Old 10-27-2011, 04:19 AM   #15
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I'm with you guys , all my long ocean passages are done on larger vessels whislt makin a living.
I don't wish to spend 10/12 days crossing oceans in a small boat.
I don't mind 2/3 days open ocean travelling to the GBR or hopefully from Cairns to the Louiseades in the Pacific or even up to Indo.
These places are pretty clos eto Aus and very doable. A set of ocean window covers (polycarbonate)are required for this.


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Gave up what?
*They abandoned their boat*so they could continue their passage to Hawaii on the cruise ship Staatendam.

That was on my first ocean cruise, fifteen days from San Diego to Hawaii and return spending time visiting four of the Hawaiian Islands during January 2003.* Rescued three people mid-ocean, and lost one passenger jumping overboard.* Boy, cruising is exciting! *Since then, have missed scheduled ports due to bad weather, have been in a couple of Hurricanes, had mechanical breakdowns, a collision, and so on.* I'm sure it was a lot easier on 900-foot-long ships rather than our little boats.



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*Seems lots of people "jump" overboard from cruise ships, 165 since 1995 according to British news sources.

Must be the food or something I guess.
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*Seems lots of people "jump" overboard from cruise ships, 165 since 1995 according to British news sources.

Must be the food or something I guess.
Might even be more people than that.* I've been told that a lot of people jump off the Chesapeake Bay Bridge every year but it's generally downplayed in order to not glamorize it and encourage copy cats.*

I'd bet the cruise industry does everything possible to minimize the spread of information of people disappearing off their ships.
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Must be the food or something I guess.
*Might be boredom or the lemming factor.
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Yup.* Another "boring" day "at sea."


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Hmm... looks like the view from Anthony's restaurant out over Bellingham Bay on a windy day.
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