North Pacific 45

[Moonfish]

For anyone interested in new boats here's a video we recently completed on the all-new North Pacific 45. It's the successor to the popular NP43. Among other changes and improvements, the reverse raked pilothouse windows sure give the boat a much better look (IMHO).

The video isn't intended to be a technical dissertation on the pros and cons of the vessel, rather it's more of a visual tour. The current issue (September) of Waggoner's Pacific Northwest Boating has a good written review that includes some engine rpm/speed/gph data.

https://youtu.be/oksNRhNN8Bo

 

[menzies]

Still only one head?

I don't get that in a boat this size?

We would have bought a 42 here (Vero Beach) a couple of months ago but for the single head.

 

[Moonfish]

Still only one head?

Standard layout is one head. Optional to have an ensuite head in the master cabin.

 

[Rebel112r]

North Pacific Trawler rendezvous Sept 20-23, in Anacortes.

 

[tinped]

now you are getting somewhere with the reverse rake,didnt care for the lines of the pilothouse previously. Good luck with the sales

 

[Forkliftt]

Very nice. What's street price gonna be?


Forky
1983 Present 42 Sundeck
Twin Lehman 135's

 

[healhustler]

At least from what they show on the video, it's good looking and seems to be a well put-together package. Single head.....I dunno. Wonder what pricing will be.

 

[dhays]

As a potential trawler owner, it looks very nice. Not that it matters, but here are the things that I see as pros and cons.

Pros:
- Great pilothouse, not sure if the bench seat converts to a bunk. If not, it should.
- No exterior wood!
- Nice cabin layout
- Hardtop over flybridge
- seems to have good systems access.
- covered cockpit

Cons:
-flybridge (maybe my inexperience, but with a good pilothouse why have a flybridge in the PNW?)
- No side decks, to get from the bow to cockpit you have to go through the pilothouse->salon or flybridge to cockpit.
- single head

Now, my wife would think that the single head is a negative, I would think of it as a positive because that is only one head to clean, maintain, and repair. That is kind of my feeling about a flybridge. A lot more to clean, maintain, and repair.

All in all the vid looks good. I like the forward raked windows because it will help cut down on reflections from the sun and at night. Even with the negatives, I would love to own it.

Of course, that is all academic because I am not in the income demographic for whome they are building those boats. The used NP 43 are way out of my price range. Maybe in 5-10 years.

 

[Moonfish]

Very nice. What's street price gonna be?

I believe the starting price is around $575K. The model we used in the video was over $600K.

 

[menzies]

I believe the starting price is around $575K. The model we used in the video was over $600K.

What is the average electronics package cost on top of that?
Does that include generator, davit, obviously not any dink or outboard?

Regardless, nice price point compared to other brands, even with an extra 100-200K for cruise-ready "stuff!"

 

[refugio]

I'm not in the market, but this is way more attractive (to my eye) than the previous design. I've been on a 39 in my club and was surprised how narrow the pilothouse felt - this looks similar. Doubt that settee is sleepable.

The TV in the saloon is not going to work - too small, horrible location.

Otherwise looks pretty well thought out!

 

[Heron]

Now, my wife would think that the single head is a negative, I would think of it as a positive because that is only one head to clean, maintain, and repair.

Bingo...How much time do you really spend there??....

I only have one, and there's rarely a line...

 

[menzies]

Bingo...How much time do you really spend there??....

I only have one, and there's rarely a line...

How many people do you have on board for multi-day trips?

 

[Heron]

How many people do you have on board for multi-day trips?

Uh....2??

Layout is really not conducive for more than that overnight...and we don't....
It would be nice but 28' doesn't give you that luxury...

 

[menzies]

Uh....2??

Layout is really not conducive for more than that overnight...and we don't....
It would be nice but 28' doesn't give you that luxury...

That's why one head suits you fine.

Now have you friendly neighbors or brother and sister in law along for a week sharing the same head/shower...

 

[dhays]

Bingo...How much time do you really spend there??....

I only have one, and there's rarely a line...

I think the question of 1 head or 2 comes down to how we view our boats and how we use them. I am a sailor, a waste device any more elaborate than a bucket seems like a decadent luxury. I happen to have 2 heads on board and feel rather embarrassed about it.

Your boat is smaller than a lot of the folks on the forum so you likely don't view it as a floating condo. Many live aboard their boats and it IS a floating condo. They appreciate the amenities that we may not necessarily use. My wife views our boat as her "floating cabin". As such, I have to put up with a lot of non boatish crap such as decorative pillows, etc... that seem to be just clutter to me.

I am careful about not telling her that however.

Dave

 

[Jimbo2015]

so for 575K I get one head

not the smartest marketing move, make it an option to have one with two std.

The question is what other boats are in that same price range and what do they offer.

 

[Britannia]

One of the main reasons I like two heads is simple: redundancy. A head failure on a single-head boat is no fun for anyone on board. Been there, done that.

Richard

 

[healhustler]

My wife views our boat as her "floating cabin". As such, I have to put up with a lot of non boatish crap such as decorative pillows, etc... that seem to be just clutter to me. I am careful about not telling her that however.

Dave

At least it's stuff for the boat. The prospect of having my Admiral's "items of preference" aboard frightens me. She has a bedding and shoe fetish that would bloat the Queen Mary. My only hope is to talk her into a barge, which I would cut loose at my first opportunity.....probably somewhere in the Gulfstream.

 

[menzies]

One of the main reasons I like two heads is simple: redundancy. A head failure on a single-head boat is no fun for anyone on board. Been there, done that.

Richard

Reason I upgraded one of my PHEIIs to a full electric Jabsco, but kept the other. It can be worked manually if needs be. Especially if battery bank low after a long anchorage.

 

[N4712]

We got two, no way I'd go back to one.

 

[dhays]

One of the main reasons I like two heads is simple: redundancy. A head failure on a single-head boat is no fun for anyone on board. Been there, done that.

Richard

That is an excellent point, and it has happened to us before and then I was happy to have that second head. Of course I then replace the terrible head with a decent one that won't fail.

I am curious, both about the NP45 with the option of two heads, but also on other 40+ boats with two heads, do you have two holding tanks then as well? I do on my boat and it is a huge pain. I have two pumpout fittings, one near the bow and one near the stern. Worse, one is on Starboard and one is on Port! It makes pump outs a royal pain.

Dave

 

[Heron]

Ha ha....You guys who like to complicate your boating experience, proceed!

One's good for me. If I had the budget for bigger boat, one would still be fine..

 

[Britannia]

That is an excellent point, and it has happened to us before and then I was happy to have that second head. Of course I then replace the terrible head with a decent one that won't fail.

I am curious, both about the NP45 with the option of two heads, but also on other 40+ boats with two heads, do you have two holding tanks then as well? I do on my boat and it is a huge pain. I have two pumpout fittings, one near the bow and one near the stern. Worse, one is on Starboard and one is on Port! It makes pump outs a royal pain.

Dave

Single 100 gal holding tank - 2 vacuflush heads feeding it.

Richard

 

[Larry M]

so for 575K I get one head

not the smartest marketing move, make it an option to have one with two std.

The question is what other boats are in that same price range and what do they offer.

The en suite head is an option they do offer.

After 18 years with having only one head on 2 different boats (42-43 footers), with company 2-6 weeks per year, we don't miss the second head but appreciate the extra space.

Wait a minute, is the single vs twins thread?

 

[CPseudonym]

so for 575K I get one head

not the smartest marketing move, make it an option to have one with two std.

The question is what other boats are in that same price range and what do they offer.

Same size Sea Ray doesn't offer an optional second head for $875,000 base price. Diesel engines are a $175,000 option...

Slightly less roomy too

 

[boatpoker]

For that kind of money you'd North Pacific could afford to install junction boxes at their AC outlets

 

[kthoennes]

For that kind of money you'd North Pacific could afford to install junction boxes at their AC outlets

Ouch, that's true. Yikes.

 

[Jimbo2015]

Formula 45 @ 675K has two heads

 

[CPseudonym]

Formula 45 @ 675K has two heads

Hmmm, subject boat keeps looking better with every comp you and I bring up. I bet that $100,000 would more than pay for the optional ensuite head.