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Old 08-16-2017, 05:43 PM   #1
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No AC in FL summer

Strongly considering buying a 34-40ft trawler to live on the hook in South FL / Keys. A top concern is how hot it would be inside the sleeping quarters in particular? I live in a waterfront bungalow in Miami now, and basically only use the AC in June thru Sept, so I'm quite tolerant as long as I have a ceiling fan & window breeze. But perusing trawler photo's online, I notice that the sleeping quarters are always down below with only a few tiny ports for ventilation. I just imagine it'd be like trying to sleep in a sauna. Am I wrong?
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:00 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum! It depends on wind getting into the stateroom. Many forward staterooms have a roof hatch (fire escape) often 16" square. Setting up a deflector to force air down the hatch and out the side ports is pretty common. I would lean towards adding an AC that ran off a generator, even if only portable. After the sun goes down, crank up the AC and turn the stateroom into an ice box. Then turn it off, close it up tight and go to sleep. It will take a number of hours for everything to warm back up without the sun. Remember, you can tolerate a lot more heat if the space is dry (dehumidified).

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Old 08-16-2017, 06:01 PM   #4
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My orthopedic surgeons told me you can get use to any pain eventually (his reference was to football knees) but an uncomfortable het bedroom might qualify. I grew up in south Florida before AC but I don't remember how bad it was. Battery powered fans are available and wind capturing covers are available to funnel the wind into ports and hatches.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:10 PM   #5
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Why don't I see a single sedan layout with a bed up above where there's windows?

I understand most people don't want a bed in their living space, but as a single guy I wouldn't mind it. Most under 40' vberths look more suitable as closet/storage than a bedroom anyway.
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Nothing prevents you from turning the saloon into your bedroom at night. My forward stateroom is often cooler than the saloon as it's water cooled by the hull being surrounded by water.

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Strongly considering buying a 34-40ft trawler to live on the hook in South FL / Keys. A top concern is how hot it would be inside the sleeping quarters in particular? I live in a waterfront bungalow in Miami now, and basically only use the AC in June thru Sept, so I'm quite tolerant as long as I have a ceiling fan & window breeze. But perusing trawler photo's online, I notice that the sleeping quarters are always down below with only a few tiny ports for ventilation. I just imagine it'd be like trying to sleep in a sauna. Am I wrong?
It would be hot. Really hot. And not the good kind of hot.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:28 PM   #8
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My forward stateroom is often cooler than the saloon as it's water cooled by the hull being surrounded by water.

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Wouldn't water temp in summer SoFlo be too warm to have that effect?
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As William F Buckley - a serious big boat sailor - used to say, "Air condition or die." Sometimes you can get a breeze but at anchor the boat is typically into the wind. And if it starts raining and you close the hatches...
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It would be hot. Really hot. And not the good kind of hot.


I just spent last week in the lower keys. Water surface temp is 88 deg. No cooling potential. U will not enjoy it. There was a breeze half of the time.
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The warmest water temp I can remember in south Florida of water was 85 degrees and that was in shallow water. Air tempatures reach the high 90s.

Concerning the V berths. I don't need a big bedroom to sleep after being out on the water, happy to have a cool dry place to sleep.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:50 PM   #12
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I've been working on my boat every day here in Sarasota. Sleeping in this kind of heat and humidity would be a little much for me. The next best thing about boating other than being on the water is having a good night sleep. If you're not having comfortable sleep, I doubt whether you're going to enjoy living aboard.

Boats with state rooms in the bow can be quite nice in anchorages or tied to a mooring. Being tied at the bow keeps you pointed into the wind, and should there be a breeze of any kind, a forward opening hatch can scoop a great deal of that air, providing decent stateroom ventilation. Marinas may not be as good for ventilation, but being able to plug-in is a bonus for A/C, even if iit's a portable. Who wants to run the generator all night.
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You are in Miami. It's August. Turn off your air conditioner, set up some small fans and see how you do. It won't be any better, or worse on a boat.

I don't like to try to sleep hot. I have a little 5000 BTU marine AC in my cabin. I power it with a Honda 2000 but I wish I had a place for a real generator.

In the size range you're looking at, the boat will most likely come with a generator, no reason not to add an AC.
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Just so I'm clear, my current and last four boats have had AC, I love it and when it quits well .......
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You are in Miami. It's August. Turn off your air conditioner, set up some small fans and see how you do.
I can handle that, I do it regularly even in the summer. The difference is I have 4x6ft windows.

I understand I can run an AC off a generator, but I imagine that would be both costly and annoying.
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Why don't I see a single sedan layout with a bed up above where there's windows?

I understand most people don't want a bed in their living space, but as a single guy I wouldn't mind it. Most under 40' vberths look more suitable as closet/storage than a bedroom anyway.
Welcome ERTF.

One thing I have done is used air beds. Sleep any where you want, on deck, flybridge or in the salon. Stuffy inside, blow up the air bed and sleep up on deck. My children love them when they were small and even now they use them and they are in their 20's . One thing I also like about it, the air bed folds up and uses little space.

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Welcome ERTF.

One thing I have done is used air beds. H
I had the same thought, in which case focusing on a sundeck style would make a lot of sense.
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Wouldn't water temp in summer SoFlo be too warm to have that effect?
The hotest months it won't work, but you will find that it works many of the months. Are you opposed to AC when it becomes unbearable? You may find that 3 or 4 months a year you may want to pay to be in a marina and have AC at night.

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I had the same thought, in which case focusing on a sundeck style would make a lot of sense.

They work well Mate and you can get a blower power by batteries to blow it up. A little more $ but it is well worth it.

My wife and I have even slept on one up on the flybridge (and other things! ) So I would get a queen size!

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Are you opposed to AC when it becomes unbearable? You may find that 3 or 4 months a year you may want to pay to be in a marina and have AC at night.
I'd prefer to avoid it, by buying the vessel best setup for the task. So I was trying to get a vibe on what kind of layouts and specific models have the most robust natural airflow.
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