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Old 04-13-2016, 11:14 AM   #61
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Bill, yes he had vinyl window installed, the apparently were RV windows and seem to work really well.
Sometimes thinking "outside the box" can be a good idea (e.g. a household refrigerator rather than a "marine" unit), but this is probably not one of those situations.

The first question to ask is why they were replaced. The old ones probably leaked - a lot. And then you have to ask, how was THAT problem rectified. If they used vinyl RV windows then I'm not expecting an appropriate remedy to the damage from leaking either.
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Old 04-13-2016, 11:14 AM   #62
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IMO before you travel great distances and before you engage professionals for a fee to look at boats it is only fair you get a certain amount of accurate information on the boat.
In a previous TF thread there was a set of questions/materials people ask for before they arrange to see the boats that they like. Here is my entry from that post as I cannot locate the post now....




I actually have an initial setof boat questions for when I call a boat for sale myself. YMMV but these haveworked well for me to sift out the ones I was more interested in pursuing...





- Are all those pictures ofyour boat?


- Are the machinery hours TT?


- Do you have a full list ofall items and options that convey with the boat?


- Are there maintenance recordsand are they up to date?


- Do you have a full history ofthe boat? Has it been damaged, partially submerged or seen heavy repairs?


- Can you send me 40-50 hi-resphotos of the boat including all of the machinery?


- What is your cruise and maxspeeds and at what rpm do you see those?


- What currently does not workon the boat?


- Where is the boat currentlyand in what condition is it stored?


- Do you own this boat or maybeis it under an LLC or partnership? Do you have 100% rights to sell the boatunencumbered?

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Old 04-13-2016, 12:05 PM   #63
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FWIW - I know 2 of the three 47 Bayliner's in post #12 very well and the third a bit better than some.
There are reasons why they are listed for below similar boats and also why there are mostly pictures of bedspreads and counters and not engines and running gear.
If someone is really interested in one of them perhaps send me a PM and I will try and share what I know and some pictures of them they do not post.


If you are not looking for a project find a boat in great condition as it will save you time and aggravation in the long run.


Good luck with your search
They were shown only as examples. I have consistently encouraged him to find a reputable buyer's broker he can trust and communicate his needs to.
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a whole bunch of articles on how to buy a boat ... not the usual broker type advice.
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Did you notice the 7700 engine hours?
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:31 PM   #66
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Agreed,

If I had a hundred grand to spend on a boat and did not want a project I'd be looking very close at a late model bayliner we 3988
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Old 04-13-2016, 10:53 PM   #67
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Thanks boatpoker I will
Ron T I will give him a call.
I understand boats need work and I am not oposed to spending money on aboat. I just would rather spend the money on upgrades I want, not fixing some sloppy boat owners crap they should have taken care off.

Its not the 4 k that hurts it is that the boat was listed for 120k and worth half of that because of its condition and should have bee better represented.

I am no rush, so will take my time to find the right thing. I will get a buyers broker to assist
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Ricky B, yes it is a concern and I should have a mechanical survey back in a week or so with a idea of how they shape UP.
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Thanks for the advise. I will use that
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If I were looking for a defever 49 RPH, or similar vintage similar style boat like a Hatteras 48 LRC, I would start with the most expensive one list and work my way downwards in price until I found one I like.

My opinion, but I believe that the lower priced examples are generally lower priced for a reason.

If I had $150K to spend and wanted a 50' pilothouse I'd probably be inspecting Rons 4788 very closely.
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Did you notice the 7700 engine hours?
Actually, you mean the 9,073 and 9,534 engine hours!



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I will look into that boat. Thanks for the info
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There is an entry in the log book that the engines were replaced at +- 2500 hrs
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I will look into that boat. Thanks for the info
It's really hard to beat the Bayliner 4788 pilothouse for livability, and good construction at a reasonable price.

another great resource is blake Davis at bayliner4788.com

I have known blake for something like a decade and a half, and if I were buying a Bayliner or meridian pilothouse I would hire him in a heartbeat.
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It's a dud Kevin.
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It's a dud Kevin.
This is the site with the great history and information.

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It's a dud Kevin.
sorry

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Ricky B, yes it is a concern and I should have a mechanical survey back in a week or so with a idea of how they shape UP.
So just so I understand . After all the above posts on this subject your still considering this purchase?
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So just so I understand . After all the above posts on this subject your still considering this purchase?
You're as astonished by that as I am? That's how huge mistakes are made. Our lust overrides our thoughts.
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You're as astonished by that as I am? That's how huge mistakes are made. Our lust overrides our thoughts.
When I saw that I thought maybe the mechanical was already done before he came here and he was "waiting" for it to arrive.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if he is just following orders.
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