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12-19-2015, 10:06 AM | #266 | |
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12-19-2015, 03:02 PM | #267 |
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skinny boats
Just want to remind everyone that narrow long boats are not new tech. They are actually a throwback and just happen to be bucking the trend to fatter higher more voluminous boats which are practical because there is barely a ceiling to the amount of HP that can be applied to an inefficient hull form. The new tech part is more likely in light weight construction and tweaks to hull shape and bow entry.
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12-19-2015, 05:31 PM | #268 | |
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Boat advertisements should be in Classifieds, not discussion threads.
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12-19-2015, 05:40 PM | #269 |
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Yes, long skinny is old-tech. Still, most people these days seem to want lots of living space and minimal berthing fees.
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12-20-2015, 03:55 AM | #270 |
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Mr. LRC58FAN, there are plenty of discussions about long/skinny versus short/fat, although perhaps not as many as discussions about anchors and about Detroit 6-71's. I think it always makes good reading. I'm curious which category you fall under:
1) An academic who just wishes to hold a discussion; 2) A salesman trying to push the product; 3) A realist who is building one of these boats. |
12-20-2015, 04:20 PM | #271 | |
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12-21-2015, 06:18 AM | #272 |
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"Yes, long skinny is old-tech. Still, most people these days seem to want lots of living space and minimal berthing fees."
So by popular demand the ROOMARAN !!!, a 3 story tall beach ball , with oxygen tent up top is the big seller. When yearly slip fees are far higher than the fuel bill the Roomaran wins! |
12-21-2015, 11:24 AM | #273 | |
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But the last pic does tent to incriminate. Could have been just good computer skills and snatched off a real comercial. And anybody can post anybody's link now days. But a moderator should be able to track a member to see if they just post the same kind of thing every several weeks to months. Brokers usually don't take part in conversation that dosn't directly lead to sales. Their interest is only sales.
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12-21-2015, 02:14 PM | #274 |
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Speaking of the bottom pic look at those flowing lines of the house. Not a straight line to be found nor a right angle. The stuff of custom boats to be sure. A nice powerful striaght stem and that's it for straight. The whole boat is a piece of art. And I think it would be very unlikely to be built in the US .. Or the UK. A slicer too. In fact it may be the most beautiful boat ever to come to these pages. Wonder what the stern looks like?
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12-22-2015, 12:03 AM | #275 | |
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Ah - I'm boatless right now, having sold my sailboat a number of years ago. So - I'm just planning for my next boat right now. Very interested in sharing notes and perspectives with others who are also interested in this type of boat - and learning about all the new variations that are coming out in this design. Sure - they aren't for everyone, but for some of us moving from sailboats (perhaps the majority of people interested in this type of boat) they really strike a cord. |
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12-22-2015, 03:24 AM | #276 | |
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I'd love to see how a boat designed like a Destroyer is to live in. Also, i know many sailors are attracted to the kadey krogen because of its efficiency, both inside and out. Long, thin boats sacrifice a lot for marginal gains. That's why I'd be interested in seeing you get one. I wonder why people like the Sea Shepherds don't get a few. At the advertised prices, with good speed, they have to be more efficient then the Bob Barker!
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12-22-2015, 04:57 AM | #277 | |
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12-22-2015, 12:12 PM | #278 | |
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"Marginal gains" are in the eye of the beholder. Everyone is looking for something different in a boat - every boat is a trade off. I'm just interested in exploring the different issues and tradeoffs within the longer thin design approaches. I've loved following the Dauntless travels - and at some point I'd like to do something similar, but I'd also like to venture off to higher latitudes and areas less traveled. And I'd just feel a lot safer in an aluminum boat that can handle a "knock down" from a large wave. |
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12-22-2015, 02:00 PM | #279 |
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PeterB,
Thanks for the heads up Peter .. what a boat. I love the way the WL beam gets much narrower aft. Most boats are just straight slabs parallel to the CL. I also like the stanchion posts for the cap rail. No ugly squarish flange plate .. the tube goes straight down in the boat .. as clean as can be. LRC58Fan thank you very much.
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12-22-2015, 02:26 PM | #280 |
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A unique and very high quality version of the concept is being built in Germany for coastal and inland waterway cruising, the Pinasse range of boats: www.pinasse-boats.com (German language version only).
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