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Old 02-23-2011, 07:09 AM   #1
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New Guy from LI

hey all. new to the forum and trawlers, not to boating. im looking to trade in my cabin cruiser for a larger slower trawler to cruise the atlantic intracoastal and beyond.

glad to be a part of the community.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:20 AM   #2
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Welcome, you will find lots of good information here. There are listees with trawlers of all kinds and sizes, questions, just ask.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:42 AM   #3
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Thanks for the warm welcome Steve. I'm diving right in !!!
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Welcome aboard NYG!!!!
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:05 AM   #5
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My home port is Mt.Sinai and Port Jefferson on the Long Island Sound. That's on the North Shore of Long Island between Manhatten and Orient Point. The LI Sound is the body of water that connects Long Island and Connecticut.

Gin is perfect for me! That's what my buddies call me so please feel free. Its actually a spin off my last name which is pronounced ~ NO Gin. I am well schooled in boats but would love some guidance and advice in my trawler search.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:19 AM   #6
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NY Gin wrote:I am well schooled in boats but would love some guidance and advice in my trawler search.
Don't know what you are looking for but there was a nice 2007 Mainship 34t for sale in Manhasset NY.* I just went to YW and it isn't there so I don't know if it sold or has been removed from the market.* I fle up and*looked at it pretty hard but got a little better deal on a one year older*boat closer to home.* It was clean and in perfect shape with Cummins power instead of the Yanmar.* Priced right at $200K.

If need be I can contact my broker and see if he remembers who the broker was that was representing the boat.*

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Old 02-23-2011, 08:24 AM   #7
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7 years ago when my business was booming, sure. Now with my business closed and this wonderful economy we enjoy so much, no way! I need something like $30 - $50 to trade my cruisers for. When I had $ I bought a 1987 29' Thompson and a 2003 Rinker 270 Fiesta Vee outright. That's the last of my money which unfortunately makes me not liquid.
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$200K for a 34 Mainship sounds pretty dear. It is amazing the deals that abound due to*the down economy. If*a buyer*has the money and/or financing in place and is ready to pounce, a desparate* seller is likely to be there. Toys go first they say.
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GIn,
Welcome to the forum! LOTS of great deals out there!
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:07 AM   #10
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"My home port is Mt.Sinai and Port Jefferson"

Then you may know* good boating friends of mine*Art and Barb Paolillo who own the Barbara Ann a 1980 Mainship II. He has been docked in My Sianai for many years.

If you do end up buying a Mainship see Art to get involved with the local Mainship owner's group. We are a great bunch of folks

Happy boat hunting.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:46 AM   #11
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Yes I know of the Barbara Ann but don't know them personally. My boat is moored close to theirs. Small world! ,)
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:54 AM   #12
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I have someone local interested in swapping his 1972 Egg Harbor 38' ( gas engines ) for my 1987 Thompson Daytona 290. Any thoughts?
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Obtaining ethanol free or low gas may be a real challenge soon. Something to consider in an older boat.

Don't know if you want to go fast, but consider the 34 Mainships built in the late 70's and early 80's all diesel powered. Also someone on this forum turned me on to the 38 bayliners built in the mid to late 80's, all diesel powered twins that should be in your price range.

I would only consider diesel power for several reasons, but that's just me, there is no right or wrong on that matter.

As has been said before, with patience you will get a great deal.
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Hi Guys - as an FYI - my local West Marine in Boston has chart books of long island sound, and south shore of long island (maptech and maptech/west marine) on clearance, for about $10. Let me know if some of you want the chartbooks, I can buy them up and sent them to you.
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"Don't know if you want to go fast, but consider the 34 Mainships built in the late 70's and early 80's all diesel powered"

And if that is the route you'd like to take e mail me privately. I owned one for 14 years, started our local owner's group, have repaired and help repaired many. Have been aboard so many it's sick. There are great ones out there and some real dogs.
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We are definately looking for Diesel. However, if its the right boat and the deal is right I would purchase gas and convert to diesel. Expensive proposition however may be worth it.

For years we have enjoyed the "fast lane" with our cruisers around 39 knots. The time has come to switch gears and slow down a bit. With that said, we need to consider semi-displacement vs displacement hulls. The option to drop the hammer and get up and out around 18 knots is a nice option. From what I understand, and most certainly can be wrong, full displacement hulls on trawlers will not exceed sayh 10 knots or so. ??????
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i am no expert but you might check out some of the used californians, 34 or 38 ft.
typically from the early 80's and typically with twin diesels.
these boats can get up and go (nowhere near 39 kts but 15-20 ) or trawl for economy and you can own these for a reasonable used boat price.
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*full displacement hulls on trawlers will not exceed sayh 10 knots or so. ??????
Depends on the hull.

A full displacement hull will only travel at hull speed for optimum efficency.

A 42 ft hull will travel at 8.68 knt p.h.

The square root of 42 is 6.4807407. multiply that by 1.34 and you get the hull speed.

A 48 ft boat = 48xsq rt is 6.92820323 X 1.34=9.28 knts

You can exceed hull speed but the cost of fuel burn escalates exponentially.*

These figures are based on a length of the boat at the waterline or LWL

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Great info SD! I'm going to have to stick with semi displacement I think. We are coming from an avg cruising speed of about 28 knots. I am afraid 9 knots tops would be a bit of a shell shock to us.

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Gin,* That narrows the field quite a bit. If you need more than 9 knots most of the production trawlers in the 36-40 range built in the last 30 or so years are OUT!

At least with standard engines.

I think Albin made a fast 34' Trawler in the 80s which could do 12 to 15 knots.

Probably would be in the 30k range in price now.

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