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Old 02-23-2011, 01:58 PM   #21
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"Gin,* That narrows the field quite a bit. If you need more than 9 knots most of the production trawlers in the 36-40 range built in the last 30 or so years are OUT!

At least with standard engines.

I think Albin made a fast 34' Trawler in the 80s which could do 12 to 15 knots.

Probably would be in the 30k range in price now."

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That may just work if it's a large 34'. I was leaning towards the 38' range as to have 2 staterooms and a large salon and cockpit.

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Old 02-23-2011, 02:08 PM   #22
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Ideally the bigger boat would be better but size and speed equal expense.

If your trawler burns say 10 gallons and hour on a 6 hour day,times 5.00 per gallon=300 bucks per day or 9000. per month.

Not sure how comfortable you would be at 5/gallon?

There are 50' boats that burn less than 2 gallon/hr but they do not go fast.

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Old 02-23-2011, 02:24 PM   #23
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Another great point! All things to consider. Our main goal here is to get something we can bring down south to the GA - FL region and use as our "vacation home." She will be at the marina most of the time. The occasional run out will be a slow and gingerly cruise at the 6 knot range. The "speed" comes into play when we bring her up and down the Atlantic Intracoastal from NY to GA/FL for the Winter than back up for the Summer. We also have a little 1965 Crestliner that we are completely customizing as our little runabout toy so if the need for speed should hit, she would be the cure.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:34 PM   #24
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I would get the biggest boat I could.* A single engine with a bow thruster would be great. Just chug a long at maybe 7 knots and have a great time.

Get your speed fix in the runabout or in the SUV.

Take Care-* Enjoy the boat Shopping!

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I would get the biggest boat I could.* A single engine with a bow thruster would be great.
People buy Trawlers because of the cost of fuel. *You can either go fast and spend 9 or 10 gallons of fuel. Get banged and bumped around to get where you are going.
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For instance my boat burns about 1.5 gallons per hour I only go 7 knts but I have lots of room and a smoth comfortable ride enjoying the senery and wildlife.
*the trip becomes the whole point.* Not the destination.

To quote "It is the journey not the vessel"*

If you can afford it.**Get a boat with a hull that will plane and go for it.

If not.**Slow down, get a Trawler and cruise

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Old 02-23-2011, 03:21 PM   #26
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I like that. I may just have to re think my intentions. 1.5 gals at 7 knots is great and that would be the majority of my cruising. I just like the idea of being able to throttle down if the weather turns or if the boys decide they want to tube. BUT, I can always hang a cool RIB off the back and "pimp" that thing out???????
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I tell folks-"No, she ain't fast. But she goes slow VERY comfortably!"
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Hi NY Gin!*

If you can locate a 34' or 40'*Tollycraft tri cabin, in good condition;*then it sounds from your post...*that "semi-trawler-craft" design just might fill your desire.* We have a 1977 34' Tolly tri, in SF Bay*area.* It's one of the finest built production*boats*Ive ever experienced... Ed Monk Sr. was the marine architect - great hull*design, built*like a tank, economical to cruise at hull or planing speeds,*sea kindly and with well appointed interior and exterior very roomy and easy to care for!*
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BTW, 1950s thru early 1970s I was brought up on LI south shore, cruised NY to Maine often, and points in between.* I worked in boat yards for most teen years.* There are some Tollycraft on East Coast.* These boats were built and designed to take the unpredictable, often very rough conditions in the North West Pacific.* Visit Yachtworld punch in Tollycraft 34 to 40 you'll see some nice ones at todays nice prices.
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I just think at the moment with the problems in the Far East going slow may become a dam sight more popular.
It looks like the price of crude will escalate and so the price of diesel.
Here in Aus we could be lookin at $1.70 a lt ( $6.80/gal) before you know it.

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A full displacement hull will only travel at hull speed for optimum efficency.

A 42 ft hull will travel at 8.68 knt p.h.

The square root of 42 is 6.4807407. multiply that by 1.34 and you get the hull speed.

A 48 ft boat = 48xsq rt is 6.92820323 X 1.34=9.28 knts

You can exceed hull speed but the cost of fuel burn escalates exponentially.*

These figures are based on a length of the boat at the waterline or LWL

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The above is not correct.

Hull speed is the max the vessel can be pushed , but it is hardly the efficient speed.

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The usual* SL multiplyer is between .9 and 1.15* to cut the fuel burn in half or by 2/3.

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The 6 or 7K cruise is as good as it gets for most modest size boats if you want to put at 1 to 3 Gph .

Wind power is way cheaper , if you want to run distances.

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Winter , motor down to FL with many bridges and speed restrictions** 3-5 weeks anchor out enery night OR

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sail to the carribean, 2 weeks* no fuel except gaining the ocean , anchor in swimmable waters?

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