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Old 02-02-2012, 05:45 AM   #1
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New Gas rules.

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Full Details on New EPA Gasoline Fuel System Requirements
<hr size="1" />The EPA has instituted completely new regulations regarding the fuel installations on gasoline boats. These regulations are effective NOW. You can read full details on the new requirements and methods of compliance in The December 2011 issue of Westlawn Institute's free online journal, The Masthead.

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The New Era of Gasoline Fuel Installations ABYC H-24 & H-25
By Dave Gerr, from Information Provided by John Adey and the ABYC Technical Department

After several years of discussion, investigation and review, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has introduced completely new regulations governing fuel installations on boat with gasoline engines or equipment. Most of these new regulations have been implemented starting in 2009 and through 2011. (A few final aspects are scheduled for implementation in 2012.) New regulations and requirements mean added cost and complexity, but they are the law and must be followed fully.

We'll review here what the new EPA regulations are and explain some of the practical approaches for implementing them. These regulations are now law under the Code of Federal Regulations, specifically 40 CFR Chapter 1060. They will affect the way you design, build, repair or inspect gasoline boats from now on.

This article is "MUST READING" for everyone involved in design, building and repair of boats and yachts.

Read the complete articles in this issue.
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http://www.westlawn.edu/news/Masthead20/index.html

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New issues of The Masthead are in Internet flipping-book format, with control icons are located on the bar at the bottom of the screen

If you prefer to read it in standard PDF format, go to the new flipping-book format and click on the download button on the bottom gray bar.

To read The Masthead in the PDF format, you must have a current version of ADOBE ACROBAT READER. If you don't have it go to: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

You can click on:

http://www.westlawn.edu/news/index.asp#Newsletter

To see all back issues and read whichever one you like.

Dave Gerr
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:10 AM   #2
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RE: New Gas rules.

The US Congress has found a way to implement unpopular regulations without the individual members being held responsible for those unpopular regulations. It's called the EPA. Members of the EPA are not responsible to voting citizens and cannot be voted out of office.

If you have bought any of the non vented, non pouring fuel jugs lately, you can thank the EPA. If you have fuel tanks or engines damaged by gasoline adulterated with ethanol, you can thank the EPA.

But, you can't vote them out of office.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:28 AM   #3
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RE: New Gas rules.

Yawn ... this is hardly new and if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.
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Yawn ... this is hardly new and if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.
*C'mon Rick,

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Old 02-03-2012, 03:48 AM   #5
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if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.

Guess you have never attempted to pour out of the "newest edict" gas cans.
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if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.

Guess you have never attempted to pour out of the "newest edict" gas cans.



Yep, I bought two of the yellow diesel cans.* "Blitz" brand just so I can make everyone aware of how crappy they are.* I sent them an email complaint.* They didn't seem too concerned.

Ever try to pour five gallons of diesel fuel from one of these POS cans into a rocking boat?* Try it and see how long it takes before your fingers cramp holding the "trigger".

And even a junior high school science class student knows that you can't pour liquid out of a container without a way for air to fill the space vacated by the liquid.* There's no vent on these cans.

Well, after a trip to the plumbing section of the home center, they now have closable vents and pour spouts that allow pouring without holding a trigger or lever.

So I bought two new fuel cans for $13 each and spent $50 worth of agrevation making them work like they should have worked in the first place.* I should have just taken them back and demanded a refund.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:32 PM   #7
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New Gas rules.

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if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.

Guess you have never attempted to pour out of the "newest edict" gas cans.

*I just take the new tops off and use a harbor freight*shaker siphon...works great!* No spill...no holding that weight...and the siphon costs $5.99*

Even the bozos I deliver gas to in my assistance towing job think they are great because they don't have to figure it all out as the can stays on my boat...they just get the hose and don't even get their hands smelly...


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if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.

Guess you have never attempted to pour out of the "newest edict" gas cans.

*I just take the new tops off and use a harbor freight*shaker siphon...works great!* No spill...no holding that weight...and the siphon costs $5.99*

Even the bozos I deliver gas to in my assistance towing job think they are great because they don't have to figure it all out as the can stays on my boat...they just get the hose and don't even get their hands smelly...



-- Edited by psneeld on Friday 3rd of February 2012 07:34:55 PM

But, the supply tank has to be higher than the tank being filled.* I would still have to hold it or have a stand.

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I don't really fill my tanks with these things, they are just to top off the tanks .
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if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.

Guess you have never attempted to pour out of the "newest edict" gas cans.

*I just take the new tops off and use a harbor freight*shaker siphon...works great!* No spill...no holding that weight...and the siphon costs $5.99*

Even the bozos I deliver gas to in my assistance towing job think they are great because they don't have to figure it all out as the can stays on my boat...they just get the hose and don't even get their hands smelly...



-- Edited by psneeld on Friday 3rd of February 2012 07:34:55 PM

*I just sit them on the gunnel...siphons off just fine....and the diameter of the siphon is so big...empties the jug in less time than pouring it.
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if it impacts a single person here please let that person describe how his or her life is going to be significantly changed.

Guess you have never attempted to pour out of the "newest edict" gas cans.

*I just take the new tops off and use a harbor freight*shaker siphon...works great!* No spill...no holding that weight...and the siphon costs $5.99*

Even the bozos I deliver gas to in my assistance towing job think they are great because they don't have to figure it all out as the can stays on my boat...they just get the hose and don't even get their hands smelly...



-- Edited by psneeld on Friday 3rd of February 2012 07:34:55 PM

*I just sit them on the gunnel...siphons off just fine....and the diameter of the siphon is so big...empties the jug in less time than pouring it.

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Well, for $6, I'll give it a try.* Thanks.

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