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Old 10-23-2012, 11:07 AM   #41
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Here is another great boat that would fit the bill nicely ! The 54 Krogen, not too many around but a beautiful boat.

1988 Krogen 54' Pilothouse Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
That is one great looking boat!
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:21 AM   #42
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Here is another great boat that would fit the bill nicely ! The 54 Krogen, not too many around but a beautiful boat.

1988 Krogen 54' Pilothouse Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Wow - Gorgeous boat with lots of rooms and 2gph @ 7 knots. Looks like a lot of boat for the money and a very good candidate for this Round 1 scenario! that may be a winner for me.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:34 AM   #43
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In 2008, Bill Van lenthe took his Kadey Krogen 44 from New York to Plymouth, England via the Azores.
The boat is called "Le Reve' and his blog documents the trip and a subsequent trip via European canals and rivers, down the Danube to the Black Sea thence to the Mediteranean. The boat is now wintering in Turkey.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:53 AM   #44
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...wintering in Turkey.
That phrase is going to ring in my cranium for a very long time. Something quite nice about the sounds of that!! Been to Turkey a couple times, would not mind wintering there!

Sounds like a nice trip. I'll look for the blog.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:31 PM   #45
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Animal-you can find a link to the La Reve blog onthe KK website under "Owners' Blogs". It is pretty cool reading, especially the trip down the Danube.
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Animal-you can find a link to the La Reve blog onthe KK website under "Owners' Blogs". It is pretty cool reading, especially the trip down the Danube.
Thanks! Will do tonight - Love the KK App on my iPad!
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:25 PM   #47
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Active stabs vs stab rig?
Active stabilizers work great but they can not work, too. I prefer a boat to be a simple as possible so I would want passive stabilizers (birds) over active stabilizers even though the fins are more effective. There are boats out there that if the stabilizers quit working in rough water (or in the case of the infamous GB66, at the dock) the boat is almost uninhabitable. So I'll take passive stabilizers.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:28 PM   #48
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Active stabilizers work great but they can not work, too. I prefer a boat to be a simple as possible so I would want passive stabilizers (birds) over active stabilizers even though the fins are more effective. There are boats out there that if the stabilizers quit working in rough water (or in the case of the infamous GB66, at the dock) the boat is almost uninhabitable. So I'll take passive stabilizers.
What's the GB66's story?
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Marin-I would think that having stabilizers fail at the dock would be the best possible place for them to fail, unless you are in a really rough marina!
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:39 PM   #50
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What's the GB66's story?
It's a long story. GB only made three of them and today they don't even acknowledge their existance. One of them was commissioned in Bellingham and one of the shipwrights who worked on it told me horror stories about its stability. He semi-seriously said that it needed the stabilizers turned on just to stay upright at the dock.

The GB Europa design only works aesthetically up to a certain size. The still-produced GB52 is pushing that limit. The GB66 was in the eyes of everyone except their owners, hideous.

Two of them used to show up here once or twice a year. I haven't seen either one of them for some time now. One of them went on the Grand Banks-sponsored cruise to SE Alaska a number of years ago and it ripped one of its stabilizers off on a rock. Only very fast thinking and acting on the part of the GB reps on the cruise prevented the boat from turing over and sinking.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:13 PM   #51
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Marin, wasn't the Grand Banks Aleutian 66 model a Tom Fexas design?
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I'm not talking about an Aleutian model here. I'm talking about the Grand Banks 66. As such it was a 66-foot version of the GB52, GB46, etc . It was a giant version of a GB Europa using the same basic Ken Smith hull as all the rest of the GB line. The Aleutian is a whole different model.
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Breaks the budget, but the Octopus could fill the bill with a crew of 60, two helicopters, submarines, launch and various dinghys.



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I have been in love with that KK54 for years now. If it is the same oone it has been for sale for over 6 years. The first time I saw it they were asking 549K. I love the lines and that forward mast crows nest. I would have to get a wireless Autopilot just so I could hang out up there all day.
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Crows nests are neat. But are they ever used?

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Thy might get used in places with clear water and uncharted coral heads....lot's of people swear by visual nav when crossing shallow banks such as the Bahamas or the Keys.
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Crows nests are neat. But are they ever used?
When we were in the South Pacific if you had one, you used it. The alternative was have rat lines or be up in the spreaders. Having the fly bridge when in and around coral is a plus.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:14 AM   #58
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Thy might get used in places with clear water and uncharted coral heads....lot's of people swear by visual nav when crossing shallow banks such as the Bahamas or the Keys.
Right. It's called eye ball navigation down here.
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