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Old 12-24-2008, 06:03 AM   #21
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

Guys I think your missing the point. Seahorse is dreaming not shopping, this is an intellectual exercise nothing more from what I see in the first post.
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:23 AM   #22
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

Dreaming is great - from it comes reality and the points*being raised. Keep it up guys!

The "steep" steps concern on a DF is similar to why many people want a single level house. Boats, stairs and ladders go together. Houseboats work for some but not me.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:11 AM   #23
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FF wrote: And what is the specific set of Desirements that is not found in ANY! stock cookie?
Layout, mostly.* I haven't seen any production boat that has a layout <u>exactly</u> how I would want it.* And it would be designed from the keel up as a diesel-electric boat.*
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:30 AM   #24
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

I agree with KMA. For a new boat under 50' and one million dollars the Northwest 47 is alot of boat. I saw it at the boat show this year. If they would just move the decimal point one digit to the left I'd get one.

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Old 12-25-2008, 05:06 AM   #25
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

Most production boats are built as Teacups , the hull requires bulkheads only to mount stuff , not for watertight integrity or specific structural purposes .

The interior is therefore easily modified.

A 30- 40 year old plastic boat could be far better as a hull to start with than a more modern thin skin .

If its a Displacement cruiser having a heavier hull wont cost that much more in fuel, and you could accomodate the strong hull with lightweight interior .

So your desirements may only be a sawzall away, instead of a million dollars.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:23 AM   #26
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Our next door neighbor just bought a 64 Nordy #3 for $600K, loaded ready to go.

Would solve most common needs for a boat to float in.
$600k for a boat that retails new for close to $3MM?* I don't believe it for a moment.* Are you sure it wasn't a 15 year old Nordy 62 (their aft PH offering)?* $600k is even a bit low for that... but more believable than a N64 going for that price.

There are no N64s listed on YW or on Soldboats.com at the moment, though there were two N64 on the market a couple of months back... B2 (N64 #2) and Samurai. Not sure if either has yet sold... but you can bet if the PAE brokerage sold either of them, they'd be listed in Soldboats at close to their asking prices, which were well over $2.5MM last time I saw them.

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Old 12-25-2008, 11:37 AM   #27
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

I don't know about FF neighbor but there are some outstanding deals to be made for new and used boats at this time. Lowball offers that wouldn't even be considered just a few years ago are now being excepted.

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Old 12-26-2008, 04:14 AM   #28
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He sez its hull #3 , and I'm sure of the price.

Should be here in Ortona soon enough , Ill take the hull ID for the folks that need to know.

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Old 12-26-2008, 08:33 AM   #29
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

Can't say if NH #3 is this case, but many high end boats are entering the market on a no broker firesale basis via bank defaults. The remaining principle + 10% or so.*Especially those that have been steadily for sale during the past few years. The catch phrase for these deals is "non performing loans" Quite often cash will be required.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:26 PM   #30
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

Sunchaser,
He says he dosn't want a used boat and he said " no blue water " so what are*you doing talking about used boats and me gushing*over the Nevillie 47? I agree with you .. I'd NEVER buy a new boat .. unless I had so much money it didn't matter. Walt isn't helping us much here either. Iv'e been looking at some old posts and Walt seems to have*an*fairly strong interest in lobster types. Walt, there is a very good article in PMM*Aug 2005 about Lobster boats. They talk about skeg types, built down types and take you on a tour of several promenent builders in the NE. You can even get one in wood. But then maybe your*type is more like a Beneteau, Sabre, Fathom 40 or other fast trawler .. if there really is such a thing.

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I don't know about FF neighbor but there are some outstanding deals to be made for new and used boats at this time. Lowball offers that wouldn't even be considered just a few years ago are now being excepted.

Dave
There are some great deals to be had.* However, it's not often you see anything selling for 50-75% less than the insurance payout would be in the event of an accident.* I hope the guy did get it for $600k, but I'd like to see a pic of the Bill of Sale next to the HID stamp.

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Old 12-28-2008, 08:31 AM   #32
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Or is the NH in question a hurricane boat?
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:01 AM   #33
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Nope , the result of dickering for 6 months with a geezer.
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Old 01-02-2009, 05:03 PM   #34
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The geezer should have gone on vacation, and paid somebody to open the seacocks in his absence. He'd have significantly more coin in his pockets.

DOH!!! Did I actually say that????
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:22 AM   #35
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You should be here at Hurricane time when the tubs take home their 3 4 nylon dock lines and break out 1/2 inch pollypropeline , thats 8 years old!!

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New dream boat under 50'............

Eric: Just got back from an extended Holiday and have read all the comments on this thread. It's true, I like lobster style boats and have not changed my mind in that regard. This thread, however, was posted for an entirely different reason. I wanted to measure the "thread drift" from the stated subject. I wanted to find out "how many and who" would address the original question or would change the subject to their own area of interest. I know most would not buy a new boat or would rather have an old Hattaras 58 LRC, etc. but that wasn't the subject! The response has been interesting, but not surprising. I wish we could all stick to the poster's subject and cut way down on drift. You'll notice that I have been more of a "lurker" lately do to my own efforts to limit contributions on subjects that I know very little about.

There is one hell of a lot of misinformation being published on this site.


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Old 01-04-2009, 01:31 PM   #37
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

Well Walt I hope you had a nice time on your vacation. I spent some time trying to help you find the best boat and perhaps others did too. I wondered why you went lurker on us after asking that question. You needn't have tricked us into going astray ( by your standards ) as looking at most any thread on this site should give you the information you said you needed. I was slightly guilty of going off subject when I was raving about the Neville 47 ( you said " no blue water " ) but I caught myself. There's two reasons for not going off subject as I see it. If I'm surfing the site and see " Write your senator " I may not be inclined to log on unless I was interested in politics. There may be, however, much posting on completly different subjects that I may really want to see. Thats one and it's quite obvious. This site is still fairly new but eventually the arcives will be a very valuable thing to browse in, for fun and as a learning tool ( if one is good at* seperating fiction from fact and BS ) and finding what one wants may be difficult if we don't stay on*subject.*If I post on a subject that I know should elict a response from a spesific member they almost always respond. I think most of us that chat on this site read everything so perhaps the need to stay on subject is'nt that important. As I see it a problem with starting a new thread is that one may feel that the subject*may be lost as many won't see the new thread unless one says "*I'm starting a new thread " ect but I always feel*I'm wasting space ( I still don't know if I am ) What say you to that Mr. Baker? *I'm not very annoied at your post mostly because I had a great time looking for a boat for you. Lusting over the Neville 47 was great fun.
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:50 PM   #38
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RE: New dream boat under 50'............

When I saw the "no blue water" comment I didn't take that to mean that blue water boats were excluded. Walt was reacting to a previous post that made the point that "cruising" needed to be better defined.

You'll notice he said "no blue water".....NOT "no blue water boat" and I took that to mean only that, for his purposes, he was defining "cruising" as "coastal cruising". While I think most of us would agree that a coastal cruiser would be a poor choice for a blue water voyager, I don't think a blue water boat would have any difficulty near shore for a week or two....or even for a month or two.
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There is one hell of a lot of misinformation being published on this site.


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How does wandering off topic equate with "misinformation being published on this site"???
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Talk about thread drift!
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