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Old 11-21-2014, 06:23 PM   #21
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Stepping into an elevator I once dropped my keys and they fell right through that slim opening in the floor at the door and all the way down to the elevator pit in the basement. Well after normal business hours...
Commiserations! Did just that, years ago, in Canberra, leaving the Hotel on my way to work(Court). $300 for the lift mechanic, $300 to courier spare keys from Sydney, multiple cab fares...
A learning experience.I am now highly adept at key risk management assessments and procedures. There are times keys must not be in hand.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:45 PM   #22
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I have 2 cockpit door keys and the swipe cards for the dock access gate on neck lanyards.
The rest of the boat keys stay on the boat with a float attachment, along with a spare set. So far - no mishaps.

Phones - that's another story.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:58 PM   #23
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A boat door key is hidden somewhere on the FB. A car key is in the chassis in one of those magnetic key boxes. I haven't dropped keys inthe water yet but did watch a cell phone take a dive.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:07 PM   #24
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I keep a full set of tools spread between my most often visited marinas........underwater of course ��
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Getting off the boat last week, in my haste in putting suitcase on dock, I didn't notice it was unbalanced, so as soon as I let go, it promptly fell into the water.

So, my lesson learned, even packed away, I will pack all electrics in plastic bags.

But I must say, having crossed the Atlantic has changed my perspective of everything.

Incidents that would have caused all sorts of major anguish in the past, are now just minor annoyances.

Basically, I'm much less hard on myself and others.
Yes, I can see how that might well change one's perspective on life, and what's really important. If you are out in bum-puckering seas, and there is something not working quite right on the boat, concern over an iPod working or not would hardly rate, would it..?
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:37 PM   #26
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If one puts their keys on a float, it's smart to make sure the float will actually support the keys.

On the key ring for our Arima, we have the ignition key, the cabin padlock key, the trailer hitch key, the trolling motor clamp arms bar lock key, and the key for a cable lock that we use to lock the trolling motor to the boat itself.

We bought a fairly substantial float for this key ring. Looked like it should float everything, right? But on a whim I tried it in the bathtub. The keys sank to the bottom pulling the float down with it. So we added a second float.

This makes for a very awkward setup to stick on one's pocket, so we're on the lookout for a better solution. But best to check if the float on your keys will, in fact, float them before heading out to the dock.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:43 PM   #27
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I concur on the magnet thing. I bought one about as big as a brick at Harbor Freight a couple summers ago. I loaned it out and it got passed around to half a dozen slip neighbors. By the time everybody was done trolling with that magnet we could have filled a whole tool box with (mostly very rusty) tools.
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Never ever will i do this.

I have a smaller magnet and it works great for tool and part saves. About 1"x4" on 50 feet of para cord. Reminds me I need to make a spare boat door key. The big magnet lessons were hilarious. a fish cam on a pole to check out props and zincs could be Combined with a magnet for fast finding of stuff before having to jump in
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This reply does not involve a boat, although we did have one at that time. Early March, just after ice-out on a local lake, I took my 3 year old son Colby trout fishing. I dropped my keys into my jacket pocket, and began casting off a dock. After a couple of casts, my keys flew out of my pocket and into the lake a good 10 feet from the end of the dock. You can imagine my distress. I tried to catch the keys with my fishing rod, no luck. I eventually stripped down to my skivvies and dived into the lake. The temperature was paralyzing. All the while leaving my 3 year old sitting on the dock. I just could not find those keys after multiple dives. I've never been so cold. I gave up, and got dressed. Hiked a 1/2 mile to a payphone, called my wife, who called a friend, who brought a set of keys up. He thought it was pretty funny. I am extra protective of my keys since then. Over 23 years ago, I have not lost a single key since.
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If one puts their keys on a float, it's smart to make sure the float will actually support the keys.
This makes for a very awkward setup to stick on one's pocket, so we're on the lookout for a better solution. But best to check if the float on your keys will, in fact, float them before heading out to the dock.
Marin, you can get a type of floating key ring device which is about the size of a rolled up handkerchief, which if immersed in water, expands due to a chemical reaction releasing a gas I presume, and it will float quite a heavy weight, but is nice and small when that function is not needed. Here's mine. Clipper were giving them to owners at the boat show, but plain non-monogramed ones are available. However, you may well find GB have monogramed ones also..?
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Peter--- Yes, we are aware of those and looked at them awhile back. Here's the deal. I've worked in a high-tech industry long enough (film/video/music production) to have learned decades ago that right about the time you really need a piece of technology to do what it's supposed to do, it won't.

So we rejected the auto-inflate key float on those grounds. A piece of cork or a plastic float has zero operating function. It just IS. As such, unless it's been structurally damaged, it will float every time assuming the weight's not too much for it.

I'm a big fan of technology but preventing our keys from sinking to the bottom of the bay is not a task I want to trust to it. Yes, I know they work great in the demo tanks at the boat and sportsman's shows. But I regard these demos the same way I regard the folly that is sky-diving: why practice something that has to work the first time?
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Many years ago we ended up with a bunch of toilet floats in our store. You know, those ball floats that are about 4" in diameter used in house toilets.

My Dad got some screw eyes and bead chain. He screwed the eye into the float, strung the bead chain through the eye and sold them as key floats! Damned if people didn't buy them. I bet they would have floated close to a pound of keys.
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Peter--- Yes, we are aware of those and looked at them awhile back. Here's the deal. I've worked in a high-tech industry long enough (film/video/music production) to have learned decades ago that right about the time you really need a piece of technology to do what it's supposed to do, it won't…...But I regard these demos the same way I regard the folly that is sky-diving: why practice something that has to work the first time?
Marin, Marin, Marin…what are you saying. If you have so little faith in science and design, what are you doing trusting your very life (not keys), to those flying tubes of metal and carbon fibre you call Boeings..? Oh yee of little faith...
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Many years ago we ended up with a bunch of toilet floats in our store. You know, those ball floats that are about 4" in diameter used in house toilets.

My Dad got some screw eyes and bead chain. He screwed the eye into the float, strung the bead chain through the eye and sold them as key floats! Damned if people didn't buy them. I bet they would have floated close to a pound of keys.
And you'd need man-bags to carry them in, as they would never go in a pocket. Hmmm...vision coming to me of Marin and his man-bag of keys..
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:32 AM   #35
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I use those small aluminum caribiners you see at hardware store checkouts. I dont go on or off the boat unless its clipped around a beltloop. Last year the brass chain on one of those foam floats silently came apart on a FL boat only barrier island beach dumping my CC keys into the sand. After about a half hour of searching, I saw the edge of the ignition key reflecting the sun. It was on edge in the sand barely peaking out. I replaced the bead chain with 1/8" nylon line with the knot melted and hot glued permanently.
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Conrad, that small button near the trunk on any Keyless Go Mercedes still requires you to have the key on your person to open (if the car is locked.) So she still would have been out of luck! (I was a Mercedes-Benz dealer for 20 years.)


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Completely agree Eric. To clarify, my point was that there is no need to carry the key(s) in your hand with Keyless go. With it in your pocket or purse you can open any door or the trunk without exposing the key.
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Was suggesting she wanted to push the door opener on the remote to open the trunk all the way before she got there. Do that all the time on our ML 350. Sometimes, it is hard to break old habits with some of the new tech in cars.

We can open the trunk without the remote button as long as the remote is on me.
Okay, gotcha. That was something I never or rarely did with our E 550. Would make sense if you have an armload. With some risk apparently!
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We use old wine corks for all our boat keys and marina key .The poly corks work best
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Keep one of these without the handle and shield tie a small rope to a V and then straight line

in the water it picks up way more the 25 pounds

amazing what we pulled up worked like a underwater metal detector

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