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Old 07-16-2013, 07:58 PM   #1
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Needing some opinions

I reciently found the perfect boat, or so I thought. A Gulfstar Mkll priced right and looks great with everything I want. Ok, so talk to the broker, and yes it is what the add says, or so he claims. Add says ready to go head to the Bahamas. Well I don't want to go to the Bahamas but I do want to get it to Buzzards Bay in Massachusetts. So now make offer, it is accepted, and I am now under agreement with a survey scheduled. My plan, do visual, followed by survey and sea trial. If all is well, do paperwork and head up the ICW. I know long trip and I need to do a lot of planning. Probably three weeks and do in multiple stages with completiling sometime in late September. Yes I also know about hurricane season and am somewhat concerned but with proper planning and a constant eye to the weather I figured a houl out if necessary is possible. Or, do I truck it. Well upon telling the broker abut my plan to motor the ready to go trawler he informs me he would nodo it because of the boats age and who knows what could go wrong. Ok, I am a little bemifed byt the comment about a perfect redy to travel boat but with posible hurricanes trucking could be my best bet. Well yes it can be trucked and mountains can be moved but not very economically. Sooo, back to the idea of motoring. Just when I am about to start planning the trip a trucker calls and in the discussion with him he informs me that many people get part way and call for him to truck the rest of the way. Also, he claims there aren't many marinas on the ICW capable of haulig a 16000 lb 36 ft trawler in case of hurricane. I am stumped. Going to see the boat July 29th. This thing better be real good or all bets are off. Anyone have any suggestions. Would love to talk to someone who has done the ICW.

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Old 07-16-2013, 08:00 PM   #2
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Wow, sorry about the typo or incorrect word usage for ad.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:08 PM   #3
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Get a good survey and fix the items needed. Plan ahead for the whole trip. Never rush. Enjoy the trip. Tons of marinas to haul vessel if needed. If you inspect and fix anything needed, bent prop, loose bering, sloppy rudder mounts. Make sure all water intakes are clear and sea strainers flushed out. Clean fuel, clean oil and air. Spare raw water pump and belts that may be needed. Watch your charts and depth finder. Head north and enjoy the ride. There is a Gulfstar club. Get in touch with them and ask about built in problems or weak spots to watch out for. Have a great trip. Do Not Be Afraid to ask what you may think is a silly question..
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:18 PM   #4
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Just ran Jersey to Florida and back last winter...the trucker is clueless.

If the motor starts well and runs pretty good...you could make the trip no big deal.

I found my boat on craigs list 2 years ago...flew down one day looked her over. Made an offer and flew back. Got a survey, went down a couple weeks later, shook hands, wired the money.....stayed for dinner with the PO and slept on the boat...left for Charleston the next morning. Hardly anything worked correctly...but the engine chugged along. Left it for 2 months in Charleston till the ice cleared the Chesapeake and finished the trip in early April.

Sure things could have gone wrong...but they didn't based on the fact I knew the boat was used regularly and full of fresh fuel. The sanitation system was a disaster as well as no working electronics except a VHF.

The intracoastal is full of marinas and lots of help along the way. Buy Sea Tow or Boat US towing for around $170 and go for it...if you are an experienced boater it will be no big deal. If not...take one along with you as a coach. If you don't know anyone...hire a capt...not all that expensive and the training you get MIGHT be worth it.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:26 PM   #5
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I agree the trucker is just trying to get more work for himself and the broker also raises my eyebrows by his comments.

The ICW is one of the easiest waterways around if you are prepared and do your homework, just like flying a private plane let the weather be your guide not your calender. You will have a blast and make sure you take your camera you wont regret it.

There are also other certified captains like me out there who you can hire if need be but truly you will enjoy the trip just make sure you choose the surveyor and check his / her references well.
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3 very experienced boaters above have given you very good sound advice. If that boat is "ready to go to the Bahamas" why is this broker waffling about a trip up the ICW?

Worst case scenario I can see if the boat checks out and surveys well is you hire a skipper to bring it home for you if you doubt you can(or can't find an experienced friend to help you do it). That has to be far cheaper than trucking it and the hired gun wont run stages it'll be one continuous trip home.
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actually...trucking might be cheaper...unless you cruise really slow, avoid marinas and let your friends pay their own way.

but that's usually not the point in owning a boat....
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actually...trucking might be cheaper...
You may have found my retirement calling for me in a few years then. I priced trucking companies but never delivery skippers. It appears I need to do some research in this area.

I plan on retiring the current career for something part time and with a lower stress level. It may be time for me to start coursework on a six pack license?
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:33 PM   #9
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Delivery captain is a hard way to make a living but fun if the money isn't an issue.

While most get the job done...there are so many people out there with capt licenses...that there's probably only one in 50 that are truly good, really experienced/professional AND can take care of the boat to boot.

Do you know you don't need a capt license to deliver boats?
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:37 PM   #10
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Ken,
All the above are right on, as I just did what you're contemplating.

Offer on boat in February, survey, closed in March, spent a month doing work on boat by mechanic who had been working in it fir the previous 6 years, started north May 1st.

Got BoatUS top package. Only used it once, maybe twice

Arrived in nyc three weeks after departure.

The last week, alone.

Lessons learned, many.
First ten days nothing but rain and wind with 5ft waves crossing every sound.

Was it worth it? Yes, a great learning experience. I got tons of experience I needed and if I had hired someone, I works still have to learn it.


Go for it.

The real point here is that learning takes work and risk.

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Old 07-16-2013, 10:48 PM   #11
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Don't be intimidated about running the ICW. You can do it. It is not rocket science. Most of the bottom is very forgiving. The chance of a disaster is near zero. Besides, it is a wonderful trip. The more time you have to savor the more enjoyable it will be. You will learn much and not just about your boat. Don't miss the chance.
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:49 PM   #12
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Lots of marinas along the way on that trip. Trick is to get a good survey(or), repair the critical/important items; then go. Keep an eye on the weather, use Active Captain, etc. & enjoy the adventure. Boats are rarely, if ever, perfect. But they sure are interesting to deal with. Don't hurry. remember that you can park it along the way someplace & go back in the Spring to finish the trip if you have to.
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actually...trucking might be cheaper...
I'm thinking the same thing. I'd look into a trucker's bid.
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You bought a boat, now use it! Using a trucker is what the rich floating condo types people do! Make the trip & you will learn more in those three weeks than you will in a season.
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Using a trucker is what the rich floating condo types people do!
Hey! Watch it! I resemble that remark!
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Delivery captain is a hard way to make a living but fun if the money isn't an issue.

While most get the job done...there are so many people out there with capt licenses...that there's probably only one in 50 that are truly good, really experienced/professional AND can take care of the boat to boot.

Do you know you don't need a capt license to deliver boats?
You dont need a Capt license to deliver however most insurance companies wont cover your vessel if its involved in an accident and is moved by anyone other than the owner or a licensed Captain.
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Wait a minute - did you buy this boat sight unseen?

Did I miss something?
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Wait a minute - did you buy this boat sight unseen?
"So now make offer, it is accepted, and I am now under agreement with a survey scheduled. My plan, do visual, followed by survey and sea trial. If all is well, do paperwork and head up the ICW."


It sounds like he did???
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Bought a boat sight unseen? I've only done that twice, but only from builders for a new boat, not a used one.
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You dont need a Capt license to deliver however most insurance companies wont cover your vessel if its involved in an accident and is moved by anyone other than the owner or a licensed Captain.
And some won't cover a licensed captain...weird but true...best to read your policy.

If you want a particular model...buying unseen might be in the cards as some go so fast they don't sometimes even hit the net/mags. As long as the offer/contract has the right wording for refusal or your offer price takes into account a major redo...then it may be the only way to get what you want fast.
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