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Old 06-16-2017, 07:31 PM   #1
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Navy Destroyer tee boned by a Freighter?

WTF? How the hell can this happen? Who the hell was standing watch? It's a damn war ship for Gods sake. It should know everything that is around it.
Don't get it. Are we really that slack?
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:34 PM   #2
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In case you don't know what I'm talking about. Here is a link.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-japan-n773521
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:36 PM   #4
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Millions and millions on superduper sophisticated scanner radar to end T boned for a gigantic merchant..
I want to laugh...
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Somebody will pay the price-although it may take a few years
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Old 06-16-2017, 08:33 PM   #7
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It won't be that long, I'd guess the Co is off in a week and the watch team, after mast, out in under a year.

Shame, looks like he almost made it through his first month in Command....

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100742

A mine sweep guy from Sasebo, took over May 17th....probably loved, but not respected enough by the crew to do their damn jobs.....

Any one of probably, 20 people could have caused this to be a close call rather than a collision.
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Given the point of impact, hard to fault the other vessel. Barring, of course a sudden change of course.
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Nobody watching the radar.
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Old 06-16-2017, 09:55 PM   #10
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CO just lost his job. Change of command pierside. Nav errors and especially collisions are career enders.
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CO just lost his job. Change of command pierside. Nav errors and especially collisions are career enders.
Especially on the starboard side...
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Seven US Navy crew missing after collision off Japan - BBC News
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According to the Washington Post, the captain was evacuated by a Japanese Coast Guard helicopter and is being treated at a hospital. One is reminded of Admiral Kimmel's lament.
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Commanding officer was one of two people medi vacced to a hospital.

Good pics of both ships damage here:
Destroyer USS Fitzgerald Badly Damaged After Collision With Merchant Vessel - The Drive
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Commanding officer was one of two people medi vacced to a hospital.

Good pics of both ships damage here:
Destroyer USS Fitzgerald Badly Damaged After Collision With Merchant Vessel - The Drive
Egad. Looks like the port bow of the container ship hit the destroyer with enough force to bend the anchor stock.
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Bulbous bow of the freighter likely tore up the navy ship below the water line, not in view. Definitely sitting low in the water. Gots to be some significant flooding.
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Long time since I was in the navy, but was on a WWII built destroyer t-boned by a carrier. Less than 1/2 the tonnage of this ship. There are at least an officer of the deck, jr. officer of the deck, quartermaster of the watch, bo'sn mate of the watch, and lookouts. Plus people on the wheel, etc.
We had a combat information center where there were several people normally watching various radar screens.
Captain will be relieved right away and a formal court will sit after all the fact are known. Probably several months. On my ship, CO and deck officers went down 1000 numbers on promotion list, effectually ending their career. CO got his 20 years in. Was a good captain, deck officers failed to follow his night orders. Captain of the carrier (HMAS Melbourne) also lost his job, but in no way was he to blame. Tradition I guess.
Most commercial ships have a bulbous bow that is underwater and extends from the bow. In the pictures no underwater damage is visible, but the bulbous bow would have struck 10' or more below the waterline.
Destroyer is about 22 years old. An early ship of this class and may not be fixed. Keel could be out of align, etc. The navy is still building a later version of this ship, so If they repair it, the ship may go to the builders not a navy yard.
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WTF? How the hell can this happen? Who the hell was standing watch? It's a damn war ship for Gods sake. It should know everything that is around it.
Don't get it. Are we really that slack?
Apparently. A number of years ago I had the good fortune of being part of a Tiger Cruise aboard my son's frigate. Spent three nights aboard having joined the ship in Puerto Vallarta for it's return to San Diego.

Except for the engineering spaces we were free to roam the ship including the bridge. I spent about an hour talking with the Lieutenant who was the on-duty navigator about his duties and how other ships are tracked. Off the starboard side about one mile off a freighter was moving in the same direction. The navigator explained how the Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is determined and that, if the CPA is to be within a certain distance, the Captain is to be immediately informed. In addition, both of these vessels would likely have been equipped with AIS. Alarms should have been sounding well before the collision (I think). Looks like a bit of negligence all the way around.
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The container ship did a u-turn just before this happened then continued on its original course?

USS Fitzgerald crash: Seven navy crew missing off Japan - BBC News
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