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Old 11-30-2012, 03:01 PM   #21
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Maybe not. I probably should have said, "Lift up that hooked thingy on the side that I showed you earlier. No, over there. On the right. Your other right."

Shoot my wife does not even know the basic nautical term after 15 years of being a live aboard. Its Ok to use some basic terms like bow, stern, port starboard etc. We still use the dirt terms. Most of the people we show and take on a boat are dirt people so we use dirt terms, bedroom, bathroom, toilet, kitchen. Also, not knowing if the reader know the nautical terms, I tend to use dirt terms. Using terms beyond the basic, bow, stern, galley, anchor, port starboard most do not know what we are talking about. I could care less what terms are used as long as they understand what we are talking about. Heck I been know to the use technical term of THINGY, many times.

Being we/I do nails, pedicure, facial and makeup in the main area we call it a salon.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:15 PM   #22
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Ceiling - The lining or inboard sheathing covering the frames of a wooden boat. Usually ceiling is light planking or slats covering the frames in cabin areas to provide insulation, deaden sound, reduce condensation and provide a more finished appearance. (Lubbers beware: the ceiling is located along the inboard sides of a ship, never overhead.)

I first heard this as a young boy working in a boatyard.

Overhead - The inboard top cover of a compartment, as in: "In the top berth get up carefully or you will clock yourself on the overhead." On shore this is called the ceiling.

Brow -
Gangplank. A moveable ladder or ramp used for boarding a vessel from the dock.

These I was introduced to in the Navy.

All are the traditional, proper nautical terminology for these items.

On this forum, I would submit that their use is optional.

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Old 11-30-2012, 03:25 PM   #23
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Pasarela (one "s") is Spanish, in a nautical context, meaning gangway/gangplank.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:47 PM   #24
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Monsieur SD. C'est francais French Dictionary
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:50 PM   #25
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No boarding plank necessary here either, but we step directly from floating dock to the deck, stepping over the gunwale. No stairs necessary either. If docked stern-in perpendicular to the dock (haven't done that yet), we'd use the stern ladder and swim platform.



Prefer using/reading nautical terms describing things nautical (like "fender" as opposed to "bumper").

I label my saloon as "saloon." The boat's builder does. But some other boat builders label is "salon."

We normally consume refreshments in the saloon. We don't do nails, facials, or hairdos there.
A Saloon was and is for drinking consummate amounts of some sort of alcohol (often with a few ladies o’ da night prancing round – sometimes referred to as “bar-flies” in recent times)... and, Saloons also usually include hard alcohol drinking in a BIG Way, right up to closing time! Saloons can be found in western towns/cities and simply small towns too. They can be easily seen on Gunsmoke and Bonanza TV reruns.

A salon is for comfortable close gatherings where repartee, finger-licking-good hors d’oeuvres, mild drink, and flirtatious "winks" can be readily shared!

The premise of a Salon offers more etiquette than a brawling two fisted drinking establishment - such as a - Saloon!

Each Captain has a choice aboard boat!
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Well that settles it...I'll stick with Saloon!
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have your salon - I'll keep my saloon

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A Saloon was and is for drinking consummate amounts of some sort of alcohol (often with a few ladies o’ da night prancing round – sometimes referred to as “bar-flies” in recent times)... and, Saloons also usually include hard alcohol drinking in a BIG Way, right up to closing time! Saloons can be found in western towns/cities and simply small towns too. They can be easily seen on Gunsmoke and Bonanza TV reruns.

A salon is for comfortable close gatherings where repartee, finger-licking-good hors d’oeuvres, mild drink, and flirtatious "winks" can be readily shared!

The premise of a Salon offers more etiquette than a brawling two fisted drinking establishment - such as a - Saloon!

Each Captain has a choice aboard boat!
Saloon n. 1. A place where alcoholic drinks are sold and drunk; a tavern.
2. A large room or hall for receptions, public entertainment, or exhibitions.
3. Nautical a. The officers' dining and social room on a cargo ship.
b. A large social lounge on a passenger ship.

4. Chiefly British A sedan automobile.


Salon n. 1. A large room, such as a drawing room, used for receiving and entertaining guests.
2. A periodic gathering of people of social or intellectual distinction.
3. A hall or gallery for the exhibition of works of art.
4. A commercial establishment offering a product or service related to fashion



My saloon:



The food fight hadn't started yet.
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Online Etymology Dictionary

Saloon - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Saloon | Define Saloon at Dictionary.com

A plethora of choices BUT I'm sticking with saloon. I'd rather be a tycoon in a saloon than anon in a salon.
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Saloons were areas on ships. Later on, bars decorated nautically, and picked up the term. It was only when women becaue major decision influencers that boat sellers adopted the term "salon".
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Saloon n. 1. A place where alcoholic drinks are sold and drunk; a tavern.
2. A large room or hall for receptions, public entertainment, or exhibitions.
3. Nautical a. The officers' dining and social room on a cargo ship.
b. A large social lounge on a passenger ship.

4. Chiefly British A sedan automobile.


Salon n. 1. A large room, such as a drawing room, used for receiving and entertaining guests.
2. A periodic gathering of people of social or intellectual distinction.
3. A hall or gallery for the exhibition of works of art.
4. A commercial establishment offering a product or service related to fashion



My saloon:



The food fight hadn't started yet.
My Salon (lol):
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A fine motley crew if ever I saw one.

I want to party with you dude!!

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Yesterday the shipwright (well, he is) stopped work on my deck to fit "docking boards" to a real timber trawler operated by real trawlerpersons ( that`s PC).
What are they? Freshly cut and milled turpentine tree sacrificial boards running the full length of the keel to take the load when docked, ie hauled out on a cradle. For wooden boats only. I might call them grounding boards.
What about "Talk like a Pirate Day?" There`s an opportunity for nautical, and avian, terms.
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A fine motley crew if ever I saw one.

I want to party with you dude!!

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What be happenin', Matey?
All well 'n jolly that ye speak like a scurvy pirate but gunna anybody understand ye other than another scurvy pirate? 'tis message be 'bout nautical terms 'n I be already lost 'n asea.
Mornin' coffee? Looks like spiced grog to me. Aaaarh...
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I want to party with you dude!!

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I recall we had an endless discussion a few years ago on the salon vs saloon thing and that the end result was that the correct nautical term is, in fact, saloon even though few people today use it with regard to boats. I avoid the whole issue by calling ours the "main cabin."
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Mine is the cabin as well.

Now - define "head" (as used on a boat).
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I call the space itself the "head" and I call the toilet the "toilet." But other people use the term head to describe the toilet as well and I have no issue with that. I call it that myself from time to time depending on who I'm talking to.
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What about "Talk like a Pirate Day?" There`s an opportunity for nautical, and avian, terms.
I have my keyboard prepared for that day.
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