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Old 06-12-2013, 08:04 AM   #21
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OK I can't add my own to this thread yet but it is in progress.
I have added a few photos of other similar boats with rigs , even one with a fly bridge.
It would appear they are more popular down under than in the top half of the world.
It looks like the fly bridge photo won't upload.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:34 AM   #22
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I can't picture it either. Fortunately, I found this almost identical 48' Motor Sailor conversion in the archives.
Nice, if you do a little more research I think you will find the mast is mounted in a line with the front edge of the helm door (where the spotlight is) and the height is about half way between the two furlers
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:01 AM   #23
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All 58 RW original had a forward mast, so the footing and the chain plates are still there. I have several times looked at adding a forward mast/sails. However I doubt we would have actual use the sails but they could help/assist the get home if required. There is one 58 RW they made into a motor sailor, as they where planning on long ocean passages. I am not sure what a forward mast sail would affect the stability? I think they had to added some balast and they added fish stabilizers. I noticed many of the motor sail picutred have fish stabilizers? Any way they had a falling out and sold the 58 which last I hears was in Panama area.

We do have a steady sail that under way little/no effect, so we will probable use it only for anchoring as a vane to reduce the swing. Being the Eagle pilot house is mid boat we tend to not swing to much. They say a stern pilot house reduces the swing and the forward house will increase the swing?

Anyway here is a picture of the 58 RW motor sailor.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:07 AM   #24
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I can't picture it either. Fortunately, I found this almost identical 48' Motor Sailor conversion in the archives.
Nice job, hustler! I knew you could (would) do it!
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:51 AM   #25
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Motorsailers

Now you have hit upon a subject near and dear to my heart. I suspect if you googled my name along with the word motorsailer you would find many discussions and my website, ie:
Motor/Sailer Design Expedition Yacht

Motor Sailers by Philip Rhodes & John Alden - YachtForums.Com

There are two monohull motorsailers I am particularly fond of, an Alden 57' & a Rhodes 44'.

Here is that Rhodes 44.

(Turns out there were only 2 of this particular design ever built back in the days of heavy single-shin fiberglass. I have in mind redesigning her with steel hull, and lt-weight cored superstructure, and 3 rig options, and a single 6 engine)
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:44 AM   #26
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Arthur Robb motorsailer

BTW AusCan, I just had to place a cross-link reference to this other beautiful motorsailer you posted just recently

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Old 08-04-2013, 12:28 PM   #27
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Hi Brian,
I've run across your name often while researching motorsailers. Nice to have another who appreciates them so much on board here.

I am certainly a convert. IMHO they are the perfect boat in this part of the world with the constant wind and unprotected water.
I am constantly learning more about the intracacies of operating a motorsailer, and appreciating how beautifuly the two power sources work together.

Yes - that Arthur Robb MS certainly is a beaut. It doesn't have the cockpit like the lovely Rhodes, but there's not much else wanting on it. Hmmmmm.....
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:42 PM   #28
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We do have a steady sail that under way little/no effect, so we will probable use it only for anchoring as a vane ....
But it looks cool:

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But it looks cool:
That is the most important criteria for pleasure craft.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:24 PM   #30
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Hi Brian,
I've run across your name often while researching motorsailers. Nice to have another who appreciates them so much on board here.
Hmmmmm.....
I'm going over to the 'dark side' though as I consider a power only canal trawler vessel
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:06 AM   #31
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Here's one I thought was cool back in the 70s. It would be a great boat today

Does anyone know the make of this boat? I think its great! I used to drool over one of these in Sippican Harbor when I was a teenager. I haven't seen one since.
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Fisher 46. nice spacious pilothouse.
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I think I saw this boat crossing Georgia Strait this summer. Cant be that many around.
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One for AusCan, a Wellington for sale $179K
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The Wellington is interesting, lots of room and passive flotation; but I'm not that keen on a flybridge motorsailer. Too much lower sail area lost due to the flybridge resulting in a higher centre of force and more heeling. Fine for running downwind though.
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.... but I'm not that keen on a flybridge motorsailer. Too much lower sail area lost due to the flybridge resulting in a higher centre of force and more heeling.
I also was never too keen on those ever higher flybridges pushing the whole sailplan upwards. But I've always appreciated a flybridge option.

On my mast aft (single-masted ketch) I located the 'flybridge' back under my wishbone shaped boom for the mizzen sail (note the boomless nature of the mizzen sail over the flybridge area):
Motor/Sailer Design Expedition Yacht

Also provided for a 'crow's nest' on the gamefishing version:
Gamefishing Design - a 65' mast-aft sailing catamaran.

The DynaRig version had a more complete flybridge arrangement, again located aft the major sail area, rather than directly below it:
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:02 AM   #39
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BTW AusCan, I just had to place a cross-link reference to this other beautiful motorsailer you posted just recently

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Should have put at least a few photos up with this link
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Shoulkd have put at least a few photos up with this link
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