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12-03-2017, 01:10 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Momma said there'd be days like this...
...but I didn't know it could last for weeks!
I've been enjoying my boat for 10 years and about 6 months ago, felt I finally had the boat 'dialed in' for my style of cruising and fishing. Then about a month ago the failures started to stack up on me.
Here's a summary of my latest trials...
1. Port oil cooler leak - cooler bypassed to get home, then replaced.
2. Stbd fuel tank leak - inspection plate installed and tank sealed with aviation grade tank sealant. (caused by bottom tank growth with crevice corrosion)
3. New port oil cooler leak-failed bracket caused wear through cooler exterior, replaced again with new bracket
Then, just this past week...
4. New start fuse blown-new install, used wrong 50A fuse, ,removed fuse and will replace with 200A
5. Head diverter valve handle broke-disassembled valve cover to turn valve with pliers, will replace
6. Port fuel shutoff solenoid spring broke (engine wouldn't start)-repaired with safety wire
7. Shower sump failed-replaced pump with same symptoms, hoses verified clear, suspect hose leak on suction side.
8. Port fuel shutoff solenoid failed (engine wouldn't shut down)- need to diagnose
9. Stbd shift cable broken-came home with stbd engine fwd only -replacement cable on order
So now I've got several days of work to get the boat back into proper working order. Thank God I'm retired and have the time to devote to supporting this vessel! I hate to imagine the costs if I had to hire out the parts and labor to a local boat yard to keep her shipshape.
Ain't trawlering grand?
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12-03-2017, 01:34 PM
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Guru
City: La Conner Wa.
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
Vessel Model: Defever 49 RPH
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 877
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Hey..... My motto is " buy a boat and have fun".
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12-03-2017, 01:39 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,759
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Too bad. Wish you the best.
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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12-03-2017, 01:48 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,121
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As the broker said when he sold me mine, "it's a boat"!!!!
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12-03-2017, 04:20 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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That's a big list Al . Glad you're retired also . Wish I was . At least you don't have to winterize. That's what we did today .
Good luck with the repairs .
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12-03-2017, 04:25 PM
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Guru
City: Mississippi
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 919
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Bummer Al - and none of those items on your list are the 'sparkly' things that can be seen . Wish I could come out and give you a hand - I might learn a few things also
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12-03-2017, 05:23 PM
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,374
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Look at the positive side, doing this you get better knowledge of your boat, and there is a good chance that what you did will last years so checked out of your todo list
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12-03-2017, 05:48 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Thanks for the support, guys.
Winterize? I didn't think you'd have to do that in TN. Can't the boat stay in the water with an ER heater? We are blessed in Northern CA with the variety of destinations and no winters.
Yes, it's nice being able to do this myself and learn new skills...some I never even thought I'd need. FC, if you're ever looking for a weekend of 'skills enhancement', let me know. I'm sure we could come up with a few challenges.
Having never worked with cables and shifters before, I'm working through the process in my head. Tight working space under my console is an issue.
Maybe I'll post a new thread on the fuel tank repair so others might benefit. It was an interesting process and so far, great results. I believe wxx3/Richard on Dauntless did something similar a year or so ago. I even added a sight tube on the stbd tank during of the repair!
After 10 years of ownership. I'm approaching the point where I'll soon be replacing parts I replaced a decade ago when the boat was only 30 years old.
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12-03-2017, 06:23 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
...After 10 years of ownership. I'm approaching the point where I'll soon be replacing parts I replaced a decade ago when the boat was only 30 years old.
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She’s got good bones and look at it this way, if you have to do it again, you’ve beat the actuarilty tables.
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12-03-2017, 07:08 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Before you pull the shifter cable housing out, tie a substantial string to it. I may be valuable when re-installing the new cable.
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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12-03-2017, 07:46 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
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Al, there's nothing like knowing your own boat and all it's little tweaks.
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Marty
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12-03-2017, 08:23 PM
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Senior Member
City: Tri-Cities WA
Vessel Name: Long Shot
Vessel Model: 1978 Californian 42' LRC
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 191
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Al, sorry that those repairs avalanched on you like that. Hang in there!
That tank repair sounds interesting. Please post details when you get a chance.
Thanks.
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Please throw me the bowline Fraulein!
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12-03-2017, 08:27 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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When replacing a fuel tank, there is nothing wrong with replacing one tank with two cross connected tanks approximating the volume of the single tank. The two tanks maybe easier to manipulate into the space. So now, you have 3 tanks approximating the volume of 2 tanks.
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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12-04-2017, 02:31 AM
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Senior Member
City: Hobart
Vessel Name: Theresa
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 66 LRMY
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 118
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I have a two for one deal going on my boat.
For every one thing I fix, two more problems will appear within the hour.
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12-04-2017, 03:43 AM
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Guru
City: st pete
Vessel Model: 430 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 3,483
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
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2. Stbd fuel tank leak - inspection plate installed and tank sealed with aviation grade tank sealant. (caused by bottom tank growth with crevice corrosion)
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Al,
What sealant did you use?
I've used Flamemasters CS 3204 MIL-S-8802F (now AMS-8802). Works reasonably, but that was 12 years ago. And was for a rubber fuel bladder in a plane. There are other manufacturers of the same MIL-S-8802F products.
Perhaps there are better products out there now.
Would be an interesting narrative of how you made the repair.
Thx
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12-04-2017, 06:13 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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"Before you pull the shifter cable housing out, tie a substantial string to it. I may be valuable when re-installing the new cable."
Plan B is simply to install a second cable at the same time.
Shift and throttle cables come in multiple grades , perhaps a step up?
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12-04-2017, 07:27 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
"Before you pull the shifter cable housing out, tie a substantial string to it. I may be valuable when re-installing the new cable."
Plan B is simply to install a second cable at the same time.
Shift and throttle cables come in multiple grades , perhaps a step up?
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Either plan might work.
I would still suggest dragging the string through too, for the future.
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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12-04-2017, 07:40 AM
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,741
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Sorry for your troubles, Al. At least you know you’re fixing everything that’s likely to break in one fell swoop. Yeah, right . . .
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12-04-2017, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member
City: Tasmania
Vessel Model: Old Town Loon
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seevee
Al,
What sealant did you use?
I've used Flamemasters CS 3204 MIL-S-8802F (now AMS-8802). Works reasonably, but that was 12 years ago. And was for a rubber fuel bladder in a plane. There are other manufacturers of the same MIL-S-8802F products.
Perhaps there are better products out there now.
Would be an interesting narrative of how you made the repair.
Thx
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The stuff we used to use for sealing metal aircraft tanks was called PR-1422. Its a two part sealant and we used it for things like windscreens as well. Outstanding as a sealant and from memory it came in different grades with different cure times.
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12-04-2017, 10:47 AM
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Guru
City: Pender Harbour, BC
Vessel Name: Gwaii Haanas
Vessel Model: Custom Aluminum 52
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 3,791
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If you were new at this I’d say “welcome to boating(!)” but as you are not, I would contemplate changing all your engine control cables now as they are all the same age and “while you’re in there...”
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