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Old 11-08-2013, 09:50 AM   #41
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Looking at pictures of filters and systems I wonder if the yards of fuel hoses aren't just as vulnerable to the fire hazzard, and how would they fare in the 2.5 minute test?
Maybe I shouldn't wonder too much the gubmint could have us replacing them all with SS tubing?!
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183.540 - Hoses: Standards and markings
(a) "USCG Type A1" hose means hose that meets the performance requirements of:
(1) SAE Standard J1527 DEC85, Class 1 and the fire test in Sec.183.590; or
(2) Underwriters’ Laboratories, Inc. (UL) Standard 1114.



33 CFR 183.590 - Fire test.

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§ 183.590
Fire test.
(a) A piece of equipment is tested under the following conditions and procedures:
(1) Fuel stop valves, “USCG Type A1” or USCG Type A2” hoses and hose clamps are tested in a fire chamber.
(2) Fuel filters, strainers, and pumps are tested in a fire chamber or as installed on the engine in the boat.
(3) Fuel tanks must be tested filled with fuel to one-fourth the capacity marked on the tank in a fire chamber or in an actual or simulated hull section.
(b) Each fire test is conducted with free burning heptane and the component must be subjected to a flame for 2 1/2 minutes










(b) "USCG Type A2" hose means hose that meets the performance requirements of SAE Standard J1527 DEC85, Class 2 and the fire test in Sec 183.590;
(c) "USCG Type B1" hose means hose that meets the performance requirements of SAE Standard J1527 DEC85, Class 1.
(d) "USCG Type B2" hose means hose that meets the performance requirements of SAE Standard J1527 DEC85 Class 2.
NOTE: SAE Class 1 hose has a permeation rating of 100 grams or less fuel loss per square meter of interior surface in 24 hours.
SAE Class 2 hose has a permeation rating of 300 grams or less fuel loss per square meter of interior surface in 24 hours.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:49 AM   #42
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There is a length limit of around 30 inches and I have seen CG inspectors catch that on an installation. Be careful what you hope for or wonder about ... there are surveyors reading this and who knows what havoc they might wreak with a little more knowledge.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:17 AM   #43
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Hi Steve,

I was looking through one of my manuals and found a description of the Racor which listed the metal bowl as a "Fire Deflector" required by safety regulations in marine use. Unfortunately on my Racors the bowl also prevents you from seeing the bottom of the clear plastic reservoir thereby making it difficult to assess the condition of your fuel. Engine failures due to bad fuel can also be a serious safety hazard.

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Old 11-08-2013, 12:03 PM   #44
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Hi Steve,
Unfortunately on my Racors the bowl also prevents you from seeing the bottom of the clear plastic reservoir thereby making it difficult to assess the condition of your fuel.
How do those with spin ons see their fuel at all? I consider the "see the fuel" claims/advantage of Racors more decent advertising than a requirement.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:09 PM   #45
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When looking into the fuel bowl to see if there are contaminants, place a flashlight on the back side of the bowl so that you can see through rather than the light reflecting off the side you are looking into.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:38 PM   #46
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All I know is, if a fire breaks out on my boat, I am pulling the "T" handle and getting the hell outta there, regardless if I have a silly bowl or not under my filters!
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:41 PM   #47
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All I know is, if a fire breaks out on my boat, I am pulling the "T" handle and getting the hell outta there, regardless if I have a silly bowl or not under my filters!

best comment I have heard so far!

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Old 11-09-2013, 12:41 AM   #48
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You could throw up the bowl if forced to visit the ER in a seaway.
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