Marine Toilet

[KEVMAR]

Any pros or cons about the Jabsco Quiet flush compact electric toilet, thinking about getting one for the 36 albin thanks
Kevin g
New bern NC

 

[Crusty Chief]

Good toilet, just not very quiet when flushing. Pretty quiet the rest of the time!
LOL

 

[ranger58sb]

We have a Quiet Flush. Works fine. Seems quiet to me, especially compared to the POP! of a VacuFlush, but then I don't have another electric toilet to compare...

So not a recommendation, just an observation.

Our QF did begin to gradually get louder and louder toward the macerator's end of life. IIRC, that was at almost the 10 year mark. Replaced the pump/motor assembly (macerator), easy and fast, and all returned to original quiet.

-Chris

 

[North Baltic sea]

Any pros or cons about the Jabsco Quiet flush compact electric toilet, thinking about getting one for the 36 albin thanks
Kevin g
New bern NC

previous boat is this toilet is working properly more than 11 years. low water consumption: does not meet the black water tank in, to vote may perhaps disagree, as the name. May be ring is slightly smol my ...

 

[HeadMistress]

All the recommendations appear to be from folks who've had theirs for more than a few years....so it's worth noting that ITT spun Jabsco off a few years ago to a company called Xylem Flow Control, who has manufacturing plants in 3 countries--U.K, China and Mexico. All Jabsco products sold in the U.S. are now made in Mexico with material, parts and equipment sourced from China and other Asian sources. Which may explain why most of the reported problems with the Quiet Flush series seem to be focused on newer units.

The top rated electric macerating toilets are the Raritan (the only mfr who still makes everything in the US) Marine Elegance Raritan Marine Elegance Owners Manual and is their SeaEra, which available as either a complete toilet or a "conversion" (everything but the bowl seat and lid). Raritan SeaEra Conversion Promo Sheet (Raritan is overhauling their website...I've provided links to the pages that provide the most information.)

 

[HiDHo]

Peggy, we just had a Raritan Elegance installed replacing a 20+ year old Atlantis. The Elegance is every thing I've heard about it, effective flush, retains water in the bowl, odor free, quiet, etc. We choose the fresh water model and where surprised that the water supply to our Purasan cartridge dispenser is not on the outlet to the toliet from the flush solinoid valve. Trying to throttle down the flow of full water pump pressure really requires a solenoid valve. The installation instruction show the water supply tee'd off before the flush solinoid valve with no hint that full water pump pressure to the tablet dispenser won't work very well.

 

[Tom.B]

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All the recommendations appear to be from folks who've had theirs for more than a few years....so it's worth noting that ITT spun Jabsco off a few years ago to a company called Xylem Flow Control, who has manufacturing plants in 3 countries--U.K, China and Mexico. All Jabsco products sold in the U.S. are now made in Mexico with material, parts and equipment sourced from China and other Asian sources. Which may explain why most of the reported problems with the Quiet Flush series seem to be focused on newer units.

The top rated electric macerating toilets are the Raritan (the only mfr who still makes everything in the US) Marine Elegance Raritan Marine Elegance Owners Manual and is their SeaEra, which available as either a complete toilet or a "conversion" (everything but the bowl seat and lid). Raritan SeaEra Conversion Promo Sheet (Raritan is overhauling their website...I've provided links to the pages that provide the most information.)

Under Peggy's advice, I replace our two Vac-U-Flush units (which are still for sale if anyone wants them) with the Raritan Marine Elegance units and could NOT be happier. They are very quiet and could swallow an anvil (standing by for dietary and bowel movement jokes) Make sure you order it with the Smart Flush option. It's a little bit of a more complex wiring install, but the touch panel control and features are more than worth it.

Take a look.

 

[Mule]

Peggy probably has been wrong about something, sometime but no one can recall when or about what. On this subject in particular she certainly is the authority.
I have an Atlantis and a De Elegance. Rebuilt the Atlantas last year after 7 years. Have the Deelegance out now redoing it now. Aside from the price of the parts and Raritan still using slot screws I can not find fault. If you buy the best you will seldom be disappointed. Sure wish they would get rid of those slotted screws.

 

[HeadMistress]

We choose the fresh water model and were surprised that the water supply to our Purasan cartridge dispenser is not on the outlet to the toilet from the flush solenoid valve. Trying to throttle down the flow of full water pump pressure really requires a solenoid valve. The installation instruction show the water supply tee'd off before the flush solinoid valve with no hint that full water pump pressure to the tablet dispenser won't work very well.

A very easy problem to solve: install a gate valve in the line to the PuraSan cartridge...set the pressure to what it needs to be. Amazon has large selection of gate valves.

 

[Comodave]

We had a Jabsco Quiet Flush in a boat previously. It was anything but quiet. If you flushed the forward head everyone on the boat would be awake including occupants of the aft cabin.

We have gone to Raritan Marine Elegance per Peggy's recommendation. Love them.

 

[av8r]

We've had both and much prefer the Raritan.

 

[Dwk]

Last winter we installed a Raritan Elegance with the smart flush control . Having options as water only, empty only , water saver flush, power flush covers all situations. In most all hoses can be hidden from view. Easly maintained. Great unit.

 

[HeadMistress]

Btw...HopCar (Hopkins Carter Marine), a regular poster here, has the Elegance--and anything else you need--for a price that's the lowest I've found, so you definitely want to get a quote from him.

 

[jskinner30PII]

Peggy,
I'd use a globe valve instead of a gate valve if you areusing the valve to throttle the flow of water going to the toilet. The valvewill last longer.

 

[Northern Spy]

Peggy,
I'd use a globe valve instead of a gate valve if you areusing the valve to throttle the flow of water going to the toilet. The valvewill last longer.

Yes, and it will be quieter too. No gate rattling away in the seats.

 

[HiDHo]

Correct never throttle a gate valve, they should be either fully open or closed. Globe valves can be throttled but in the case of the Purasan tablet dispenser the water supply is thru 1/2" vinyl tubing and the flow is adjusted in ounces not gallons.
I thought a brass needle valve but then I thought about the rachet type flow control that came with the Purasan and opted for a KISS solution. A spring clamp used by wood workers, so far it's working.

 

[HeadMistress]

Never throttle a gate valve, they should be always either fully open or fully closed...???

A faucet is a gate valve...a hose bibb is a gate valve. You're saying those must always be fully open or fully closed?? (Sorry didn't realize that photo of a gate valve was so large!)

 

[HeadMistress]

However, after looking up a globe valve (I'd never heard of it by that name before) they're so similar in appearance what we've been calling a gate valve isn't actually gate valve.

So what's the difference in them, and why must a gate valve always be always fully open or fully closed?

And btw, it was Raritan who suggested the gate/globe valve...manually adjust the rate of flow till you get it to what it needs to be.

 

[stone beach]

Gate valves are for isolating, open or shut.
A faucet (= a tap) is not a gate valve. Same operation as a globe valve.
Hose bib is the same.

 

[stone beach]

Globe valve opens an increasing annular dia to the flow. Designed for full or partial opening.
Gate only seals when it is closed, when open it is out of the flow.
Throttling will damage (cut) across the sealing faces

 

[HeadMistress]

Got it...Thanks!

Just proving once again that I'm not too old to learn something!