Mike Lowthian
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Looking for a reasonably priced marina in the general Miami area, including the Miami river, for a 45 trawler. Tips anyone?
Thanks.
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Please people, define reasonably priced when you ask this question. What we consider reasonable may not be what you do. Also are you looking for transient or year round or a few months? Liveaboard or not?
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Ditto. A similar question is "who knows of a _____ that's great and won't break the bank"? to which my response is "how big is the bank?"
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If you want to be in the middle of the action and great restaurants Miami Beach Marina on south beach is where I would stay. Joes Stone Crabs is spitting distance, Smith and Wollensky a little further.
Great Marina and location and reasonably priced at $6 to $10 per foot daily and $78 per month and up and for three months $68 and up. For annual slips as low as $34/ft per month. Now any of these can be higher.
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$6 to $10 DAILY???? Holy Cow!
I’m glad I’m on the Salish Sea, two bucks a foot is on the high end around here for overnight and a few marinas located in day cruise destinations are charging a nominal fee for a few hours.
I’m glad I’m on the Salish Sea, two bucks a foot is on the high end around here for overnight and a few marinas located in day cruise destinations are charging a nominal fee for a few hours.
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Yeah, I agree...My neck of the woods has some exclusive, top dollar areas like Nantucket, Marthas Vineyard and Boston but Miami takes the cake I guess.
Yes, we were amazed at the prices in Washington and Alaska.
That's why we asked that one defines reasonable and length of stay. I could now give $4 per day marinas and they're reasonable compared to Miami Beach but are they compared to what the OP is looking for.
That’s not the reason marinas are so high there. I used to live there; it has some decent restaurants, but nothing that special. It has a lot more to do with property tax rates than anything else.
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I'm sure taxes play a big part, but supply/demand effect is very real. There just aren't enough slips in Dade county for the number of boaters. The municipal marinas all have waitlists and Irma didn't improve the supply. I'm at Miami Beach Marina, on an annual lease. It is not cheap, but is a nice, clean well-managed marina. There may be possibilities at Prime Marina in Coconut Grove, price on an annual basis might not be that different..
As others have said, need more info from OP to offer more help.
Wifey B: There is only one......note....one......no more....one...Miami Beach Marina. Other marinas close, such as Sunset Harbor or Miamarina or Sea Isle or even the megayacht marina on the causeway, One Island Park. However, if you want to be in Miami Beach and right at South Beach....there is only one...
Their price is whatever the market will bear. Because....only one.
Now if you don't like the location, it's not worth it. But if you want to go to South Beach and take off your top and enjoy.....or go for a lunch or clubbing or just enjoy.
And restaurants, starting with Joe's Stone Crab.....oh making me hungry just thinking of it....
So much incredible dining on Miami Beach and across the bay so little at Bayside.
For those of us to whom Miami Beach Marina appeals, there's just no other to compare. For those to whom the location and marina doesn't appeal, then it's just not their place.
Wifey B: More within 2 miles. More within walking distance.
That's like Joe's Stone Crab. You can't adequately describe it. One has to experience it to understand.
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I was looking at the Fountainbleu Hotel recently. It isn't South Beach but it's close. $10 / ft (40' min) and it doesn't even include power. $25 a day for 50 amp. That $435 doesn't even get you access to the pool - you have to rent a lounge chair or cabana for that.
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Miami Beach Marina - are you referring to the one just inside Government cut, before the bridge?
I have stayed there a few times - don't recall $6-$10 a foot daily. Did I miss something?
I have stayed there a few times - don't recall $6-$10 a foot daily. Did I miss something?
Apparently.
You may have missed Suntex taking over and then new management. Rates have gone up.
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I used five miles because I wanted to include the Forge on 41st Street, my favorite.
My dad was great friends with Joe’s original owner, we could walk in and the the front man and my dad made eye contact, my dad would show on his fingers how many were in our party and we would walk right in and be seated. All the waiters knew him and we got great service.
I used five miles because I wanted to include the Forge on 41st Street, my favorite.
My dad was great friends with Joe’s original owner, we could walk in and the the front man and my dad made eye contact, my dad would show on his fingers how many were in our party and we would walk right in and be seated. All the waiters knew him and we got great service.
And, that scarcity, of marinas, is directly related to the property tax rates. Highest and best use taxing, no matter what the property is actually being used for.
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So let’s assume you own this beautiful waterfront property and your financial planner says you can turn it into a marina and have an income of $200K per year or turn it into retail shops and a couple of restaurants and derive an income of $425K per year. Taxes are the same, what would you choose?
I'd turn it into shops and a restaurant and have a marina in front of them.
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"Why do we insist on bringing taxes into so many threads here? How is it helpful to the OP? It's a boating forum folks."
Reality helps anyone that can understand it.
In this case the OP may decide to dock elsewhere and drive to Miami .
At Miami marina rates a daily limo might be cheaper.
Or as they used to say,,,,,," If you have to ask, you cant afford it."
Reality helps anyone that can understand it.
In this case the OP may decide to dock elsewhere and drive to Miami .
At Miami marina rates a daily limo might be cheaper.
Or as they used to say,,,,,," If you have to ask, you cant afford it."
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Yes, information on costs is helpful. I added some.
Guesses about why those costs are high, especially when laced with political agenda, don't seem to be. And they detract from the experience of those looking to simply discuss and learn about boating.
I'm sure we'll find a way to bring guns into the thread soon enough too.
Guesses about why those costs are high, especially when laced with political agenda, don't seem to be. And they detract from the experience of those looking to simply discuss and learn about boating.
I'm sure we'll find a way to bring guns into the thread soon enough too.
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"I'm sure we'll find a way to bring guns into the thread soon enough too."
Probably Calle Ocho would be a better location for gun purchases than a marina..
Probably Calle Ocho would be a better location for gun purchases than a marina..
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So I guess the answer may be “what drives rates “ is the overall cost of the land, it’s holding costs and taxes and the prices paid for labor on top of overall demand when comparing Marina costs...
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Wifey B: More within 2 miles. More within walking distance.
That's like Joe's Stone Crab. You can't adequately describe it. One has to experience it to understand.
Let me preface this by saying that my absolute favorite food is stone crab claws. I consider them to be manna from heaven. I'd eat them three times a week if I could.
As Miami is part of my territory for work, I'm down there quite a bit. A couple of times I have been traveling with management with expense accounts and they have taken me to Joe's. Joe's has excellent stone crab claws.
But here's the thing, all stone crab claws ar excellent unless they are spoiled. They alll taste the same. Joe's doesn't cook their claws themselves, no one does. Claws are cooked by the crabber then sold. The shells are really thick, no flavoring gets through to the meat, which doesn't need any flavor added, it's perfect already.
Joe's is very, very expensive. Maybe you are paying for the atmosphere, which is cool if thats what you are into, but you aren't paying for better stone crab claws. All stone crab claws, unless Frozen or something, are the same.
Wifey B: That's like saying all steaks are the same and all chicken is the same. I've tried them elsewhere and been quite disappointed. I don't know if it's the selection of crabs or the way prepared or way cooked or how served, but I am sold on Joe's. And let me assure you it's not the atmosphere to me, as I think the place is a madhouse.
