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Old 08-04-2016, 07:33 PM   #141
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Oscar Wilde — "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about". AC loves being "talked about".
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:39 PM   #142
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AC loves being "talked about".
I love a good debate and interesting conversation. If ActiveCaptain is a part of that, I do love it.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:39 PM   #143
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I think the cruisers who are so much in support of these "free" information aides should belly up and pay for it themselves.
We do "pay" for it through our contributions. AC would be nothing without the content, just as this Forum would be nothing without its content, including the content of this thread since nobody can resist a train wreck. Each of us pays, and does so voluntarily, by adding to the content of AC. It's payment in the form of labor/writing.
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:17 PM   #145
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We do "pay" for it through our contributions. AC would be nothing without the content, just as this Forum would be nothing without its content, including the content of this thread since nobody can resist a train wreck. Each of us pays, and does so voluntarily, by adding to the content of AC. It's payment in the form of labor/writing.
Your right, this thread is a train wreck.
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:08 PM   #146
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Your right, this thread is a train wreck.
Yes, and it's too bad. It was a good debate initially.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:33 PM   #147
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Not wanting to read ALL the posts, but the issue of money, cost and value seem lost on some of the respondents. A web based service makes money off simple 'HITS' on their server, ad click thrus, and web link clicks.

I just learned of this process by a co worker who has set up a USCG nav question database. It pays him by making every five questions splashes an ad, and every 4 ad clicks is a penny. So for 400 clicks he is paid a dollar.

The idea that the creators of the websites make a killing out of commission is misleading. They make money out of ad click revenue, (ok, maybe a small commission) and click thru to other sites. Don't be so critical of web based 'profits' affecting your cost. It's a whole new world out there. Dive in.
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It pays him by making every five questions splashes an ad, and every 4 ad clicks is a penny. So for 400 clicks he is paid a dollar.
1. There are nearly no boating websites where that would work. The are precious few general websites where it would work.

2. It also doesn't work for the company placing the ads. No one likes, wants, or buys from push advertising like this.

There are incredible, consistent studies about banner ads, click throughs, and push advertising. You need to have many millions of visits a day to have it work out. Google's own DoubleClick did the landmark studies of it all. You need 1,000 visits to generate 1 click. But then, 1 out of 2 clicks are done by mistake (how many times have you accidentally clicked a banner ad only to curse and figure out how to go back?)

So take ActiveCaptain's website - a fairly well used boating website. We get about 30,000 visits per day. So if there were ads, it would generate 15 clicks. Not sales, just clicks. How many days of that would it take to generate a single sale? 5? 10? How much do you think the companies placing the ads are going to let their ads run like that?

Imagine how many visits a questionnaire about some CG thing generates. Maybe 500? On a good day?
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