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Old 08-02-2016, 01:04 PM   #101
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:04 PM   #102
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Nope. I call the marina to speak with a person. I also call front desks of hotels to speak to a person as well. I do use apps and Internet to price check and negotiate.
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So much rancor is unseemly on this forum.
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Wifey B: On topic. The question is will you use the system. Requires no editorial and only two answers, "Yes" or "No".



My answer is NO

Sorry, I have to go with "maybe". Depends on the eventual selection of marinas.
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Old 08-02-2016, 02:09 PM   #104
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I think the nattering nabobs of negativism should take a break and walk to the corner pharmacy to have their Kodachrome 's developed. Probably 2 good photos in a roll of 36. But then who needs technology? Now I'm heading below to use my cell phone.
I think the cruisers who are so much in support of these "free" information aides should belly up and pay for it themselves. I'm sure Jeffrey could look at his books and set a pay-for-play fee that would offset all of his advertising receipts....and he says it's not about the money anyway. Then you wouldn't be taxing the rest of us, and non-users will respect you for stepping up. Maybe you'd like to lead the effort to get Jeffrey to transition the system?


In the mean time, I'll be discussing the downsides of all of this with fellow boaters, marina managers, corporate offices, and State funding offices in Michigan and Wisconsin.

By the way, I sense just a tad bit of unseemliness...maybe just a touch of rancor... in the above paragraph.
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I think the cruisers who are so much in support of these "free" information aides should belly up and pay for it themselves. I'm sure Jeffrey could look at his books and set a pay-for-play fee that would offset all of his advertising receipts....and he says it's not about the money anyway. Then you wouldn't be taxing the rest of us, and non-users will respect you for stepping up. Maybe you'd like to lead the effort to get Jeffrey to transition the system?
I'd like to thank you for paying these imaginary increases so that I can continue to use Active Captain for free.

Your contribution is greatly appreciated!

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Old 08-02-2016, 03:15 PM   #107
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I'd like to thank you for paying these imaginary increases so that I can continue to use Active Captain for free.

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Keep it up. Adds to my motivation. Plenty of listeners outside the TF cruising segment who will get the flick. Fat cat boaters who have the funds to cruise off into the sunset sucking off of local families who are having trouble paying for the ever increasing price of their slip. No contest. Enjoy the freebee while it lasts. And you are very welcome.
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[QUOTE=semi-planing;465882]I think the cruisers who are so much in support of these "free" information aides should belly up and pay for it themselves. I'm sure Jeffrey could look at his books and set a pay-for-play fee that would offset all of his advertising receipts....and he says it's not about the money anyway. Then you wouldn't be taxing the rest of us, and non-users will respect you for stepping up. Maybe you'd like to lead the effort to get Jeffrey to transition the system?


If you don't cruise what difference is the cost of transient dockage? Or the cost of an Anchorage?

I think I smell something, did you write a guidebook or something? I'm stumped by your anger.
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Old 08-02-2016, 03:45 PM   #109
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Sorry, I have to go with "maybe". Depends on the eventual selection of marinas.
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Old 08-02-2016, 03:46 PM   #110
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Keep it up. Adds to my motivation. Plenty of listeners outside the TF cruising segment who will get the flick. Fat cat boaters who have the funds to cruise off into the sunset sucking off of local families who are having trouble paying for the ever increasing price of their slip. No contest. Enjoy the freebee while it lasts. And you are very welcome.
Wifey B: Are you over or under 100 years old? It's fine either way. Just curious.
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Keep it up. Adds to my motivation. Plenty of listeners outside the TF cruising segment who will get the flick. Fat cat boaters who have the funds to cruise off into the sunset sucking off of local families who are having trouble paying for the ever increasing price of their slip. No contest. Enjoy the freebee while it lasts. And you are very welcome.
Don't get me wrong, I'm on a budget just like everyone else. I figure the money Jeff has saved me by making anchorage information and free docks widely available is probably worth hundreds of dollars per year to me. Then there is the fuel he's saved me by being able to find and cursory evaluate marinas in my area without going to them. Then there was the time I bent my prop and was able to find an inexpensive boatyard on Active Captain to get it taken care of at. I could go on an on, but I think you get the idea.

With all these savings, I could probably afford to pay an annual fee, but I'm still OK with you picking up the imaginary tab.

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With all these savings, I could probably afford to pay an annual fee, but I'm still OK with you picking up the imaginary tab.

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Wifey B: Wonder if he can tell us how much he's spent on each of us through his imaginary tab? Maybe we should all send him a penny. Would that make us even?
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Old 08-02-2016, 05:19 PM   #114
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I think the cruisers who are so much in support of these "free" information aides should belly up and pay for it themselves. I'm sure Jeffrey could look at his books and set a pay-for-play fee that would offset all of his advertising receipts....and he says it's not about the money anyway. Then you wouldn't be taxing the rest of us, and non-users will respect you for stepping up. Maybe you'd like to lead the effort to get Jeffrey to transition the system?


In the mean time, I'll be discussing the downsides of all of this with fellow boaters, marina managers, corporate offices, and State funding offices in Michigan and Wisconsin.

I think I understand your basic premise. You suggest that any service that is paid for, not by the end users of the service, but in by advertisers, raises the total cost to the general public. I think you are probably correct. I may be able to watch over the air TV for free, but it is paid for by advertisers which raises the cost of the products those advertisers sell even to those who don't watch TV.

If I pay for a meal at a restaurant I am using a service that costs the business money, maybe 2.5% of the transaction cost. This coat has to be recovered from al, patrons of the restaurant even if they pay cash for their meal. The credit card companies profit, the restaurant benefits, the cc patron gets the convenience of being able to use a cc to pay, but the cash customer gets none of the benefit but still has to pay for the increased cost of the meal. Same issue.

If you are consistent, you would be spending a lot more time ranting about credit card companies than you are about services such as AC, dockwa or others. Somehow I doubt that is the case. I also notice that you are doing the ranting on a web forum that you are not paying for. Your ranting here, using your same argument, is somehow, somewhere costing non-TF users money because you are not paying directly for this service.

Maybe it is because I have finished off a lovely 22oz bottle of stout all by myself, but I find myself being rather blunt. I had suggested that maybe this issue should simply lie so that it wouldn't come to this point but that wasn't a suggestion you found acceptable. Instead of conducting myself in a "nice and friendly" manner as I normally endeavor to do, here I am naming your ranting about AC and its like as boorish and ill conceived. In calling your persistent personal diatribe against Jeffrey rude, I am myself putting aside the rules of decorous public discourse to which I normally try to ascribe. My own behavior has now become completely unacceptable, particularly as I am enjoying the lovely Canadian scenery, the country which epitomizes the concepts of nice and polite.

And so, I would like to apologize to you semi-planing, to the TF community, and to the great country of Canada, for my lapse. I should go take a nap.
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And so, I would like to apologize to you semi-planing, to the TF community, and to the great country of Canada, for my lapse. I should go take a nap.
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The sad part about this is that I just found out that David likes stout. I had two great award winning stouts and one dark Belgian wheat ale from the local micro brewery that I wanted to bring down to him when we met

My wife said it was presumptuous to take it, ("What if they don't drink?") so I didn't.

D'oh!

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The sad part about this is that I just found out that David likes stout. I had two great award winning stouts and one dark Belgian wheat ale from the local micro brewery that I wanted to bring down to him when we met

My wife said it was presumptuous to take it, ("What if they don't drink?") so I didn't.

D'oh!

Next time.

Now I feel really bad! I had it buried in the fridge when you came by. I should have dug it out and shared it with you. I kept the boat mostly dry when the kids were on board. My son in law doesn't drink and my son (much to my everlasting disappointment) likes Bud Lite. Good ale is completely wasted on him.
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Naps for this group is a good idea. When you awaken, remember the Mark Twain quote: "Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured. "
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Naps for this group is a good idea. When you awaken, remember the Mark Twain quote: "Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured. "

Great advice. Thank you. I will definitely take it to heart.
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