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08-20-2015, 07:34 PM
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Guru
City: Sidney
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Marin...
Do you know where the 6 feet is lost between a 42 and 36 GB Classic?
Also, is there any difference in profile between the two?
If one is going by, I've yet to spot the difference.
Thanks.
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08-20-2015, 07:54 PM
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Guru
City: Solomons, MD
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What has the thread title to do with your question?
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08-20-2015, 09:04 PM
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City: Stuart FL
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The 36 has one boarding step on the transom, the 42 has 2.
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Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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08-20-2015, 09:08 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
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I'm not Marin, but...
Port door missing from the 36.
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08-20-2015, 09:10 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
I'm not Marin, but...
Port door missing from the 36.
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Only on some models. Later models of the 36 had both port and starboard doors.
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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08-20-2015, 09:42 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
Only on some models. Later models of the 36 had both port and starboard doors.
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No shit? Thanks for clarifying that. I'm gonna have a stern word with the guy who taught me that incorrectly.
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08-20-2015, 10:31 PM
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
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Oops!
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"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
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08-20-2015, 11:43 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
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hahaha
To my eye, the 42 seems to be the more graceful of the two. The 36 looks a little stubbier, a little more upright, a bit more awkward. I like them both very much, but I prefer the 42. The 46 somehow doesn't quite work as well either. The proportions are just a little off somehow. The 42 seems to be the sweet spot, at least aesthetically.
Spend a few years gazing longingly at yachtworld listings. You'll be able to tell the difference in no time!
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08-21-2015, 12:10 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawgwash
Do you know where the 6 feet is lost between a 42 and 36 GB Classic?...If one is going by, I've yet to spot the difference...
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To me, they look different and identifiable.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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08-21-2015, 01:38 AM
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Scraping Paint
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Hawgwash-- GB36 tri-cabins made with the new molds that replaced the original molds in 1988 have a port door like the GB42. It's a little farther forward in the side of the cabin than the 42's.
The extra length of the GB42 is distributed among all three cabins. The most apparent difference between the two models is in the main cabin which is noticeably longer viewed from the outside and more roomy feeling when you're inside. This is helped by the extra width of the GB42.
The new molds also made the GB36 taller. So the headroom,particularly in the aft cabin, is better. I'm 6'2" and my head touches the headliner in the aft cabin of our 1973 boat. We chartered a 1991 boat before buying our own and I had plenty of headroom in the aft cabin.
The new molds also allow for a separate shower stall in the aft cabin so one doesn't have to have the combination head and shower used on most of the pre-1988 boats.
Because the post-88 Gb36s are taller (and a wee bit longer) the forward head, which on our boat is very small, is large enough to include a shower with a curtain surround.
There have been a number of interior variations in the GB36 over the years, some of them very clever. One of our favorites is a port-side settee in the main cabin that has an insert that fits across the port doorway and a removeable panel in the aft main cabin bulkhead that creates a full-length berth on the port side using the settee and the top of the port hanging closet in the aft cabin.
While the interior compartment dimensions are consistent within each version of the GB36 tri-cabin (called the "Classic" in GB nomenclature) there have been enough variations in the compartment layouts and features that just about the time you think you're safe in saying all post-88 boats are like this or all pre-88 boats are like that, you come across an exception.
Of all the now out-of-production GB models our favorite by far is the GB46 Classic, particularly the galley down configuration. That's a boat you can really do something with as the number of staterooms and the size of the main cabin provide a ton of flexibility. And the step-down aft cockpit with the transom door to the swimstep is brilliant. GB eliminated that feature toward the end of the GB46's production run in a desperate effort to reduce the production cost of the boat. Major mistake in our and everyone else's opinion we've talked to about this including the GB dealer in our harbor and while it's not the sole reason by any means, GB killed off the GB46 a few years later.
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08-21-2015, 01:51 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
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I find having deck-level doors on both starboard and port sides, readily accessible from the helm, to be extremely handy. Anything less is a major compromise/shortcoming. Not so if one maintains a professional crew onboard.
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08-21-2015, 01:48 PM
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Guru
City: Sidney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
The extra length of the GB42 is distributed among all three cabins.
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Marin, thanks.
I agree with you on the 46 Classic. I have yet to see one live but my twice daily rounds of Port Sidney should produce one sooner or later. Although, I mustn't get sidetracked like I did yesterday as I wasted 4 hours talking to a skipper of a 42 GB Classic from Seattle; he on the deck, me on the dock.
We covered the coast from Morro Bay to Metlakatl, rebuilt a 57 Nordhavn and got Donald Trump into a straight jacket. The joy of boating; you can be a loner or socialiser; your choice.
Anyway, back on topic. Your pointers on interior design and spatial orientation are greatly appreciated. I've copied it to my winter learning curve folder.
Now, if I can only figure out how to tell the difference between a 36 and a 42, in profile at 200 yards, I'll be happy.
Maybe BruceK ("To me, they look different and identifiable.") will share his secret.
BTW if anyone knows the owner of the 42 Classic "Jane" out of Tacoma, please pass on my compliments. One of the most attractive 42s I've seen. The lack of clutter above the gunwales alone makes it a standout. Very nice
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08-21-2015, 02:29 PM
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Scraping Paint
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Hawgwash--- The GB42 looks a little more bulky in the upper body of the hull forward and the main cabin is perceptively longer. Also the lower aft end of the flying bridge side is noticeably longer on the GB42 then the GB36. That's about it other than details.
First photo, GB36, second photo GB42.
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08-21-2015, 02:39 PM
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Guru
City: Sidney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
Hawgwash--- The GB42 looks a little more bulky in the upper body of the hull forward and the main cabin is perceptively longer. Also the lower aft end of the flying bridge side is noticeably longer on the GB42 then the GB36. That's about it other than details.
First photo, GB36, second photo GB42.
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Thanks for the side by each pictures. Great comparative. The gunwale line against the main cabin is noticeable as well.
Thanks again.
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08-21-2015, 05:09 PM
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Guru
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawgwash
Thanks for the side by each pictures. Great comparative. The gunwale line against the main cabin is noticeable as well.
Thanks again.
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On most 42's the bulwarks tend to hide the fwd cabin side windows more than on a 36'. In most cases viewed from the side you can see the tops of the windows on a 36'. Where on most 42' classics you can't.
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08-21-2015, 05:14 PM
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City: Sidney
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
On most 42's the bulwarks tend to hide the fwd cabin side windows more than on a 36'. In most cases viewed from the side you can see the tops of the windows on a 36'. Where on most 42' classics you can't.
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Yes, thanks Capt.Bill.
The pics posted by Marin makes that difference very noticeable.
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08-21-2015, 06:43 PM
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Guru
City: Beverly Hills
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Big difference in the head room, the 36 is vertically challenged. The salon in the 42 is spacious, 36 not so much. I don't think they look similar unless viewed from far away.
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08-21-2015, 07:14 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawgwash
.....Maybe BruceK ("To me, they look different and identifiable.") will share his secret....
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The "secret" is out. 1.They look different. 2.One is longer, the other shorter. Etc.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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08-21-2015, 08:44 PM
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Guru
City: Solomons Island Md
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
No shit? Thanks for clarifying that. I'm gonna have a stern word with the guy who taught me that incorrectly.
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Did someone make your Wheaties soggy?
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08-28-2015, 09:31 AM
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Guru
City: Trenton
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Since they are both still pointy at the front, I figure it must have come off the back. About 6 feet would do it. Yep.
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