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Old 03-26-2016, 10:05 AM   #21
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Hard to compare Camano and Mainship, both great looking boats, but Camano's are very light boats at around 12k vs Mainship at 20k.
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:27 AM   #22
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Maybe I am missing something......
No, maybe the boat is missing something...lol
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:32 AM   #23
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Mainship would be an excellent choice for ICW cruising. They have space. They have creature comforts. They will certainly handle anything you'll see on the ICW.
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:33 AM   #24
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I chartered a Camano for a week in the PNW. Yes the lack of full side decks is a limitation and I wouldn't want to go forward in a heavy sea without. But I was able to "tightrope" it forward by hanging on to the grab handles to get to the bow and deploy the anchor. Not difficult to do if it is calm.


And yes, the Camano is much lighter than the Mainship 34T. That is why it gets by with 200 hp vs the 34T's 370. The Camano is very efficient on fuel as a result. We mostly cruised at 7 kts (displacement speed) with a short burst to 12-13 kts while bucking a 4 kt current and I was amazed at how little fuel it took to fill the tank at the end of the week. Can't remember exactly how much but I will bet we averaged somewhere near 2 gph.


And used Camano's are selling at 1/4 to 1/3 less than 34Ts.


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Old 03-26-2016, 12:57 PM   #25
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Nordics trade off side decks for saloon width... obviously a trade-off
Similar on American Tugs but not exactly)

One has to weigh how they will use the boat and which is the best for them.

We love the MS side decks for locking, docking & rafting

We decided having to enter the helm - down stairs & out saloon door was a negative if / when one does 100+ locks on Trent - Severn or Rideau - or NY Canals

To each his own
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:56 PM   #26
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I chartered a Camano for a week in the PNW. Yes the lack of full side decks is a limitation and I wouldn't want to go forward in a heavy sea without. But I was able to "tightrope" it forward by hanging on to the grab handles to get to the bow and deploy the anchor. Not difficult to do if it is calm.


And yes, the Camano is much lighter than the Mainship 34T. That is why it gets by with 200 hp vs the 34T's 370. The Camano is very efficient on fuel as a result. We mostly cruised at 7 kts (displacement speed) with a short burst to 12-13 kts while bucking a 4 kt current and I was amazed at how little fuel it took to fill the tank at the end of the week. Can't remember exactly how much but I will bet we averaged somewhere near 2 gph.


And used Camano's are selling at 1/4 to 1/3 less than 34Ts.


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Thats very interesting, I never knew that the Camano was a s/d hull, and very light at only 10,000 pounds. Sounds like a perfect combo, light weight/ fb/big cockpit/single.

Just wondering if it maxed out at 13 kts/200hp, or did it have little bit extra left in reserve?
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:12 PM   #27
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This was eight years ago, but it seemed like 13 kts was a high cruise value. You wouldn't want to run it any faster than that long term. Top speed was about 16 kts. I remember being impressed with that performance from a 200 hp engine.


Here is a review by Jack Horner- BoatUS - Boat Reviews - Camano 28/31 I agree with all of his findings except the 8.5 NM/gallon at 7 kts. I think it is about half of that. Still very good.


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Old 03-26-2016, 05:15 PM   #28
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This was eight years ago, but it seemed like 13 kts was a high cruise value. You wouldn't want to run it any faster than that long term. Top speed was about 16 kts. I remember being impressed with that performance from a 200 hp engine.


Here is a review by Jack Horner- BoatUS - Boat Reviews - Camano 28/31 I agree with all of his findings except the 8.5 NM/gallon at 7 kts. I think it is about half of that. Still very good.


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Thanks for the link.
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Rustybarge,
The Camano is't a SD boat either.
They are planing hulls .. IMO.
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Isn't this a mainship thread?
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The Camano is't a SD boat either.
They are planing hulls .. IMO.
I watched a few vids; I'm a bit confused about exactly what sort of hull form they have.

General opinion is they track very well with the big keel, and handle the chop in pnw and se Alaska . 10kts seems to be the best fast cruise; weird you would expect that to be a bad speed with the stern digging in.

Another boat to add to the MS 34 lightweight type 15kts max cruise collection.
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Rustybarge,
The Camano is't a SD boat either.
They are planing hulls .. IMO.
Gonna have to disagree here. I have seen them run on plane. An SD hull will remain completely flat in a turn while on plane. A planing hull will bank into the turn. Camano remained completely flat in the turn while on plane. Banking in a turn has to do with lift being provided in the forward part of the hull. An SD hull is not providing much lift up front while providing almost all lift from the back half. A very flat back half.

My Mainship stayed totally flat in a turn. My Carver does not...it banks.
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Our last boat was a Camano. I don't know what you would call the hull, but the designer, Bob Warman, called it a Keelform hull. Look it up because I can't explain it. The engine sat down real low in a bulge in the keel. We mostly traveled at 8 to 8.5 knots at about 2.5 gph. However it would get up to a little over 16 knots at full speed. I don't know how much fuel it was using at that speed, I never did it for more than a few minutes. The narrow side decks was never a problem for us and we're both in our 60's. There is a good handrail on the flybridge the full length. It's a very good boat for 2 people and we really loved it.
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