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10-27-2017, 12:26 PM
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48 (sold)
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,186
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This is the age of enlightenment ( or is it?). Two women and two dogs doing their thing. Then mother nature and reality intruded. I'd bet a large amount that the USN has similar questions, maybe already answered.
Yes Peggy they are fit, an oatmeal and rice diet can do that so says Quaker and Uncle Ben. Enriched rice most likely. Or maybe they ate the dog food along with Fido.
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10-27-2017, 02:46 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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In this day of the internet people have come to expect the’ll know everything about everything. I think the need to know is overblown. It’s now a habit.
Read Yahoo news one day and see if knowing anything over 15% of it would be of any benefit. Most of it may not be trash but most of it is stuff we just don’t need to know.
This lost at sea thing is a good example. Who needs to know if they ate the dog or not. They didn’t as I’ve see pics of the dog. This should be a family thing and a Navy thing. That’s it.
But there’s so many things that would be helpful to know why do we waste our time reading endless ..... stuff?
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North Western Washington State USA
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10-27-2017, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member
City: Houston
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
I’m glad they didn’t have to eat the dogs!
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Maybe they had more than two dogs when they started out...
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10-27-2017, 04:13 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
But there’s so many things that would be helpful to know why do we waste our time reading endless ..... stuff?
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The owner of this forum is glad we do.
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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10-27-2017, 07:50 PM
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Guru
City: Ashland, MA
Vessel Model: 1990 Silverton 40 aftcabin
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,208
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BaltimoreLurker
Dropped their men's bodies over the side, but then realized they didn't even know how to hoist the sails.
Definitely more to this story!
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HEY! You may be right!!!
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10-27-2017, 08:39 PM
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Guru
City: Philadelphia, PA
Vessel Name: Revel
Vessel Model: 1984 Fu Hwa 39
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,024
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I join the crowd saying/thinking, "Makes no sense to me!". Here's video of the 'rescue'. Looks like a perfectly good sailboat to me. Main neatly furled.
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/...1509/?sk=h_chr
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10-27-2017, 08:45 PM
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#27
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
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Anyone remember the movie
“Dumb and Dumber”
I think this is the sequel
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10-27-2017, 11:00 PM
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City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,610
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I think the "need to know" is because we don't want to be decieved and lied to. When society deems someone worthy of admiration and praise, and their accomplishments turn out to be fraudulent, it lowers the pedestal that all heroes have been put on; and we all lose a little something from that. Reality is a scary thing sometimes, and it helps to know that once in a while, David can slay Goliath, Shackleton can get his men home, a college dropout can start Microsoft, Ann Frank can get out of the attic, Neil Armstron can walk on the moon, or Rosa Parks can sit wherever the hell she wants.
This is only my opinion, but I think we all get a benefit from the inspiration provided by people who accomplish great things, and we all pay a price for the people who lie about it.
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10-28-2017, 02:59 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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They were saved. That's enough.
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10-28-2017, 04:35 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,312
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How is "only able to move at 4-5 knots" an emergency when that is the cruising speed of many small sailboats that cross the Pacific each year? How is it that they are both in good spirits, well fed and healthy and even the dogs are plump and well cared for?
There are so many issues with the story that I figure it is one of two things:
1) They truly are complete neophytes and the idiocy is real;
2) More likely this was a well-planned publicity stunt that will now earn them book rights and movie royalties.
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10-28-2017, 06:29 AM
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#31
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Guru
City: Jupiter, Florida
Vessel Name: Black Eyed Susan
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42' Classic
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,644
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I think Peggy needs to get on over there quick. There's no way that boat smells good.
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10-28-2017, 09:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: Alexander
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 152
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HOAX?? Hell, I look worse than that crossing to Bimini.
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10-28-2017, 09:56 AM
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#33
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,378
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Their story is suspect for sure. If you have a stump of a mast and a scrap of a sail you can get somewhere. Force 11 storm? .. anyone else hear of that one. Decided not to return to Hawaii after a few days out?. Sounds like someone looking for a book deal or fame for sure
I guess the world will know more when the show up on Ellen.
Pure incompetence or calculated the entire thing.
Hollywood
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10-28-2017, 09:58 AM
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#34
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Guru
City: Victoria TX
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet PY/SP
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugardog
HOAX?? Hell, I look worse than that crossing to Bimini.
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Ha! Yes. That's what I was thinking. [emoji23]
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10-28-2017, 10:33 AM
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Grand Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver dave
I met a captain in the Freeport Bahamas custom line. He asked me what heading to take to get back to FL!
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We were waved down by a kayak South of Bellingham, Washington we thought was in trouble. Man, woman and a Labrador. They had a Shell roadmap and wanted to know in which direction Alaska was. I felt sorry for the dog.
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10-28-2017, 11:00 AM
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#36
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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We met a couple Kiwi sea kayakers while camping on Burnett Bay; the huge beach you see on the mainland a bit south of Cape Caution. We were paddling south, they were headed north to Prince Rupert and maybe SE Alaska.
All they had was a decades old Charlie's chart book and had gotten turned around at night in Johnstone Strait because the lights had changed. Why they were in those current confusing waters at night, I have no idea. They also had some nice weather coming up the Sunshine Coast and were going to mail their tent home...we advised them to hold onto it!
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10-28-2017, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member
City: Tellico Marina, Maryville, TN
Vessel Name: Twilight Time
Vessel Model: 1986 48' Californian MY
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 104
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Thank you. I have not believed one word of this story.
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10-28-2017, 04:39 PM
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#38
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Guru
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
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Reading the article I was somewhat skeptical of the media's facts. But when I saw the picture, I am thinking staged hoax. You expect to see the vessel dis-masted and fowled with the rigging and none of that is present in the pic. Hard to believe, but as they say, "Stupid is as stupid does." Will make a great book, when it's all dressed up by a ghost writer.
(While visiting Friday Harbor, another boater asked me about going up the outside of Vancouver Island. I told him to bring his charts over and we'd go over it.. . . . . He brought back a paper table place mat with a map of the San Juans and Vancouver Island printed on it. Only Chart on the boat was and out of date chart book for lower Puget Sound. )
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Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
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10-28-2017, 04:41 PM
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#39
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Model: Helmsman 4304
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,005
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We don't have all of the details, but I am also suspect about their story.
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10-28-2017, 05:25 PM
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#40
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,610
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For less than a hundred bucks you will NEVER BE LOST.....
If I was venturing 3000 miles into the middle of the Pacific Ocean, I'd have multiple redundant GPS devices.
Now that I think about this a little more......if they didn't have a GPS, they must have just been using a compass and a chart. If you were off by just 1 degree over a distance that great, you would miss your target by 50 miles !!
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