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Old 07-07-2015, 01:54 PM   #21
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:08 PM   #22
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Is this the one that is for sale on CL?
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:09 PM   #23
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Thought these had a partial tunnel...know the guy who started marketing them here...he was real interested in what I knew about small inboard boats.
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:20 PM   #24
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Thought these had a partial tunnel...know the guy who started marketing them here...he was real interested in what I knew about small inboard boats.

WOW those are some spendy units
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Old 07-07-2015, 02:46 PM   #25
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They are very nice looking boats. From what I saw looks like an outdrive on the 21.
Thought those were a no-no in Southern waters.
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My wife would absolutely remove body parts if I bought a Carolina. She doesn't appreciate being slapped with a moderate V. The flat bottom no matter how little it draws is a non starter.
Take your wife for a ride in a Shamrock while in a chop. She may remove some of your body parts. They are a good boat for why they were designed, but the hull goes pretty quickly from a V to more flat sections. Take a look at a bottom contour. The Caloosahatchee can build a chop in a hurry.
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Take your wife for a ride in a Shamrock while in a chop. She may remove some of your body parts. They are a good boat for why they were designed, but the hull goes pretty quickly from a V to more flat sections. Take a look at a bottom contour. The Caloosahatchee can build a chop in a hurry.
On the 26 CC the ride in chop up to 3ft was not bad at all...IF you stuffed the bow down with the trim tabs. Was a little wet however. I ran Hawk Channel in some nasty chop and it was acceptable to me. If it got to anything over (unless long period swell) 3 ft...well...fugedaboutit! On a 20ft hull you would probably be fine in the protected waters around Ft. M.
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Old 07-07-2015, 04:44 PM   #28
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Recommend you look at a few power catamarans, mbevins. (That's as distinguished from pontoon boats, which are a different breed of cat). An increasing number of manufacturers have entered this market - several came and went during the Great Recession. Twin Vee has pretty good designs, though their construction quality is uneven. I like my 18' Shoal Cat. It's roomier than any 18' monohull, but still might be smaller than you want.

Power cats like mine have generous, flat cockpits and foredecks, with storage under. Their space is organized similarly to that of a Carolina Skiff. The difference is, a cat won't beat you to death in a chop. I will grant that, at 12" of draft, my cat might need a little more H2O to float in that an 18' Carolina Skiff. But if a foot of water is deeper than where you like to go, you can always get out and walk alongside the boat.

Cat advantages: shallow draft, light weight, economical to run, requires minimal power, spacious, easy to trailer-tow & launch & recover, easy to push off from a beach or mud bank, stable at rest, and smooth running even in rough conditions.

Cat disadvantages: hmm . . . can't think of any right now!
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Before I bought my Blackfin we were searching for a center console in the 25' range. I had known Steve Harris with he was with Uniflite. I ran into him at the Miami Boat Show. He was then president of Shamrock. A test ride was arranged for my wife and me on Biscayne Bay. The boat was the 26' with a Cummins engine. Biscayne Bay had a pretty nice chop on it. When we got back to the dock, my wife said no way. We bought the Blackfin for the ride, but it is definitely not a shallow water boat. All boats are a compromise. I think the Shamrock is great for it's intended purpose.

By the way, my late wife handled the boat while I looked after the cockpit and fishing lines. She knew her way around boats.
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Don, my father got rid (actually...a hurricane did) of the Shamrock and bought a 25 Blackfin. At the time we had a 37 Bertram sportfisher which had a phenomenal ride. He also liked the hull form of the BF (Ray Hunt design also IIRC) and picked up a VERY used one out of Marathon. The fuel tanks were all but falling apart which did not become apparent until he took it out in foul weather. He had a penchant for buying other people's problems. Would have been a fine boat new.
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:02 PM   #31
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So as not to take over this thread, here is a link to a video that I posted some months back. Anyone interested in Blackfins can watch. It demonstrates the Blackfin ride pretty well. My wife, Anne, had to work the wheel very little for about 100 miles. Click the header, and you can put it up full screen.

Take a ride on my Blackfin
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Thats a quiet boat. Diggin the Northstar LC,those were awesome machines.
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Looking for a, New Center Console.

If she wants to ride on the bow I second the pontoon boat idea.

I'm at a very rough lake and our friends just bought a new pontoon boat. I never understood the allure of pontoon boats and still think they are ridiculous looking, but this boat took big lake chop at 35 mph like it was nothing. I've never seen anything like it. It's actually a tri-toon I'm realizing now as I look at it. Maybe 20-22' long. 225 hp Honda. Does 50mph allegedly.

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I saw these all over on the way to the Keys. Mostly rental boats heading at me like missiles, but they sure cut through the chop.
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