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Old 02-18-2017, 10:24 PM   #1
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Long showers

Among the criteria for future boat search is a separate shower stall no smaller than the one I currently have at home, which is like 32" x 32". Several of the common trawlers I see owned here fit that criterium nicely. Of course, having a decent shower doesn't do much good if you don't have the water or the water heater capacity to take a decent shower.

Based on my experience at our rather primitive cabin, I can take a luxurious (by my definition) shower with 4 gallons of water. Most boats I'm looking at have fresh water capacities of 80-150 gallons. If we (wife and I) are cruising the Loop with regular access to water, taking two 4 gallon showers each day seems practical, especially if that's a priority of ours. Is that consistent with you all's experience?

And what about the Bahamas? I read that water is far more scarce there. Is it so scarce that you can't refill freshwater tanks every few days?
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:31 PM   #2
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Don't see the need for every-day showers unless spending time in warm/hot humid climates (which I try to avoid: a day in Cartagena took me 10 days to recover) or one is doing hard, sweaty/dirty labor.
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:37 PM   #3
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In the islands it's easier to shower with saltwater outside then do a freshwater rinse.
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I realize it's a preference thing that not everybody subscribes to, but for me it's a daily deal. I just sleep better. I can go a week without when backpacking, but given the option, it's a daily thing.

Salt wash, fresh rinse makes sense. Does soap lather in salt water?
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Have you both salt/overboard and fresh water available in the shower?
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My solution was to have enough water capacity for domestic cruising (I like a shower every day also) and will possibly add a water maker if trips to the Bahamas necessitate it. Fresh water is more attainable in the Bahamas now than it was 10 years ago. It may be plentiful enough in 5 years not to need the water maker.

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Old 02-18-2017, 11:13 PM   #7
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It's a given with us to shower daily and our showers take far more than 4 gallons of water. The average American shower takes 17.2 gallons of water and lasts for 8.2 minutes. Cruising the loop, if you stop at marinas, then water won't be an issue. You mention 80-150 gallons. I'd want all I could get.

In the Bahamas, water is readily available but expensive. If I was going to regularly cruise the Bahamas, I'd add a watermaker if at all possible.
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Our shower head at home runs about 2.5 gpm, so I'd say we average more than the 17.2 gallon figure you cite. Far different at the off grid cabin though where the flow rate is around 0.5 gpm. It's all what you can get used to.

I definitely don't see us as marinas every night on the Loop types, and freshwater volume may well dictate how often we pay for nights. No such thing as "free water" around the Loop?
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In hot weather I really enjoy a shower before bed, as Texas said, I sleep better. I do fine with a typical sailor's shower. Rinse. Lather with the water off, then rinse again. On those rare times when we are in warm water, a salt water wash followed be a fresh rinse works well. You can get soaps designed for salt water.

Bow, I just realized the other day that I have a wash down outlet in a locker on the stern. That makes the salt water wash even easier.
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Old 02-18-2017, 11:39 PM   #10
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Our shower head at home runs about 2.5 gpm, so I'd say we average more than the 17.2 gallon figure you cite. Far different at the off grid cabin though where the flow rate is around 0.5 gpm. It's all what you can get used to.

I definitely don't see us as marinas every night on the Loop types, and freshwater volume may well dictate how often we pay for nights. No such thing as "free water" around the Loop?
Combination. If you're using marina services by docking or purchasing fuel, water will generally be free. Other times, you'll pay a minimum amount or be given water free. A lot of municipal docks with free water. I can't guarantee you won't have to pay in places if you're not getting dockage or fuel. It seems to be discretionary at many places. We spent nights at marinas so didn't really pay a lot of attention to their practices if someone just pulled in wanting water.
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Just the 2 of us most times, 300 gallons of fresh water a water maker and sometimes that isn't enuff. We cruise for long periods and it just requires a bit of work and planning. Run the generator, try and make water, wash cloths, do dishes, showers and you get the drift.
We're not "Camping" and Dont plan too change our habits. Its all a matter of taste.
My suggestion is make more room for holding more water first, water maker second. Enjoy the time onboard with comfort and you'll enjoy the trip more.
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Old 02-19-2017, 12:47 AM   #12
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Crusty, with a name like that perhaps you should shower longer? 8^)
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Definition of bliss, a long swim then a quick rinse off with fresh water on the back of the boat.Soap & shampoo not needed. A shave is optional.

This requires long hot days with a gentle breeze.This year we have that in spades, too hot really, so our emphasis is on frequent cold showers to wash off the salt.
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On our last boat we have a 100 gallon tank. When we went to the Abacos with the two of us plus three children plus one child friend, it was "boat showers" while not having access to shore based showers.

Boat shower being wet yourself, water off. Soap up, water on to rinse. When in a marina we filled up but used the shore facilities.

Now in Sonas we have a 350 gallon tank. to date we tend to shower every day for as long as we want. We did consider a water maker this year but decided to leave it for now. In the Bahamas we may do both full showers and boat showers planned around marina visits, staying a night at Emerald Bay each time to pick up people flying into Georgetown. Which is mid-March, early May and Mid May. So it will probably be full showers in March, boat showers in April and full showers in May.
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Having lived with a watermaker for the last 15 or so years now, I can't imagine life without one...
We use lots of water for everything, we simply make more as we need it.
Tanks are always fresh due to the high turnover rate, the dogs are clean, we are clean, the boat is clean...
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I definitely don't see us as marinas every night on the Loop types, and freshwater volume may well dictate how often we pay for nights. No such thing as "free water" around the Loop?
My boat holds 300 gallons. If there are 2 people on the boat, I could stretch that out to 15 days with nice showers each day. A significant part of water consumption is also how you do dishes, don't leave the water running. Then there is laundry at 11 gallons per load. I could certainly use less, but it's really not necessary.

Then there is reality on the Loop. How long will you go without stopping for groceries, night out for dinner, laundry (if no washing machine on board), and sight seeing ? There are also some places with free docking and water for the night. Maybe a better way to figure out the water part of the equation is to figure it backwards. As an example : if you stopped once a week for groceries, to do laundry and other general cruising maintenance, you would need water for 6 days. If you and your wife needs combined for everything were 20 gallons per day, then 120 to 150 gallons would seem reasonable. Maybe you need less; maybe you stop more often.

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Based on my experience at our rather primitive cabin, I can take a luxurious (by my definition) shower with 4 gallons of water. Most boats I'm looking at have fresh water capacities of 80-150 gallons. If we (wife and I) are cruising the Loop with regular access to water, taking two 4 gallon showers each day seems practical, especially if that's a priority of ours. Is that consistent with you all's experience?
Surprised Wifey B hasn't chimed in with the suggestion to combine that into one 6-minute shower.




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I do fine with a typical sailor's shower. Rinse. Lather with the water off, then rinse again.
Use that navy shower technique with the combined approach above... and maybe it'll turn into a very pleasant 20 minute thing, hardly any water used at all.



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Old 02-19-2017, 07:33 AM   #18
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Plenty of water on the loop and traveling in the US.

Much is hard , some tastes like it came from a swimming pool , so a taste test is always worth the effort.

In the Bahamas paying for RO water is how you get drinkable water.

Town Dock water wont kill you and is suitable for showering and dish washing rinses.

A solar shower of dock water with a real water rinse could be done.
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An on off button on the shower head saves a lot of water. That way no re-adjusting temperature by messing with valves.

BTW Bruce B, I bet those dogs will claim your brand new boat real quick. Hopefully you have an aft deck shower for them.
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I also sleep better on a hot and humid day after a shower.

We only carry 100 gals, so we need to ration on longer trips.

We spend Alot of time in the ocean to keep the body core temp down. One final ocean dip a few hours prior to bed. A quick, approximately 2 to 3 gallon rinse on the swim step with some soap to hit a few key areas at the end of the day, and a little spritz of water on the intermediate showers during the day to get the salt off.

Looking forward to summer, and getting back in the ocean. Our water has been cold, and very dirty with our rains. Had to go in last week to look at my props, and felt like I needed a tetanus shot.
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