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Old 12-21-2012, 12:27 PM   #1
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Long range up to 43" for live aboard ?

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My name is Luciano, i am from Brasil e my intent is to buy a trawler in the USA to live aboard and travel around world with my wife .
I like Nordhavn 40 or 43 , but would like to Know another Brands to long range.

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:25 PM   #2
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Welcome Luciano37.

One question I have for you are you looking at a new NH or used? Also cruising around the world is a wide range to be cruising. You may want to give some idea of where you are planing to cruise to.

A little more info will be needed for some people on here to give you their thoughts. Like one I can think of, is will it be just you and your wife or will there be others onboard? The more info you give in your post will help you out a great deal.

But to get you started the NH are good vessels but like all vessels they do have their pro's and con's

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:36 PM   #3
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Hi Hfoster, thanks for the reply!

The boat should be used. I and my wife and I will use the boat to live aboard.
I was considering a sailboat but the comfort aspect is poor.
I would like a boat to go to anywhwre, hi latitude and low latitude.

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:48 PM   #4
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No worries on the reply my friend. One thing I also would like to ask is have you been to the NH web site? You also my want to check out some yacht for sale site to give you a better idea on what a used NH will cost you. You also will find some other vessels that just may suit you as well.

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:57 PM   #5
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Yes, I m looking on yachtworld but in many cases not have information about range, only about fuel tank .
I think the boat should be between 1800NM and 3200 NM.


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Old 12-21-2012, 02:06 PM   #6
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Well there is a great deal of factors to take into acount when talking about that kind of range. Hull type. speed, weather power plants just to name a few. On any vessel you look at NH, Fleming, O.R. O.A. Marlow, G.B you name it you should beable to go to their site and find a fuel rating chart to put you in the ball park on the range.

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:19 PM   #7
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Thank you, I am reading your post , have many information there.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:56 PM   #8
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Luciano.
Kady Krogen and Selene are also good boats to look at.
Depends on how much you want to spend.
My preference would be a Nordhavn 46. A true proven round the world traveler and a bit bigger than the 40 or 43.
Reasonably priced and most are still in very good condition.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:14 PM   #9
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard Luciano.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:55 PM   #10
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Luciano, having built two Nordhavn 40's and living aboard part time for five years I can confirm they make great live aboard boats. The N40 is actually a little larger than the N43 in many areas that count (salon, galley, engine room). If long range adventures are in order you can not go wrong with a Nordhavn. Now if you are looking at living aboard and doing coastal cruising you have many other options at a lower price. Some already mentioned. Remember also that not everyone is cut out to travel at 6 knots. We have met many couples where after a month or two they were unable to adjust long multi day passages. The dream can and often is more appealing then the reality. My advise is take it slow, try chartering a Nordhavn for a week first then decide if it something you really want to do. Also remember that with any boat, you will spend time performing maintenace, cleaning and learning about every sysyem aboard. Looking bask we are glade we experienced our time with Nordhavn and now looking forward to a simplier boat for long weekends and a couple of weeks each year traveling up and down the California coast and possibly down to Cabo. If I can assist with questions on Nordhavn's please let me know.

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Old 12-22-2012, 05:23 AM   #11
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"I like Nordhavn 40 or 43 , but would like to Know another Brands to long range."

Long range is surely a requirement , but a long distance open ocean boat will be VERY different in layout and construction from most yacht "trawlers".

Look the Nordhaven over and be sure the construction you see , scantlings . is found in other boats.

Easy to spot thin window glass and non sea doors .

The interior on an ocean boat will have hand grabs so you are not thrown from bulkhead to bulkhead.

Get a copy Passagemaker book (1st printing is most honest) and read up on what is required.

At the price of most Nordhavens , a well equipped 55 or 60 ft sail boat may have the room you desire and be far more suitable for serious offshore cruising.
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Old 12-22-2012, 05:51 AM   #12
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Nordhavn is right the best to my goals (is my dream) , my doubt is wether there is other brand with the same performance to long range with cost more affordable.
The idea is start in 2015 and stay many years around world for long time in each place. For exemple, 2 years at mediterranean sea, 2 years in Caribean , Usa etc.
Basically I and my wife are going to live aboard and should be visited by 3 or 4 people on vacances of our sons.

I m sorry my poor language in english.

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About travel at 6 nots, its is not important, we have no concerns about traveling slowly.
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Love Nordhavns, but I also recommend taking a hard look at Selene. Check out the blog/website of Brian Calvert onboard M/V Further- he took his Selene from Seattle to Mazatlan, then headed west to French Polynesia, and has been cruising from the South Pacific to Thailand for the past 3 years.

His Selene 48 has over 5000 hours on her with minimal problems, and is still going strong.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:16 AM   #14
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[QUOTE="Pau Hana;121417"]Love Nordhavns, but I also recommend taking a hard look at


Thanks for information Pau

I will read the blog,

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Old 12-22-2012, 10:38 AM   #15
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Another vote for Selene. After a lot of research and boat visits it beat out the N43 which was also on our short list. You might also was to look at the Northwest 45.

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Old 12-22-2012, 11:01 AM   #16
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Luciano, it appears your dreams fit well to a full displacement hull with the range required to meet your destinations. I think you should look at the major players in this market (Nordhavn, Kadey Krogen and Selene) and join thier web-site forums. For Nordhavn is it Nordhavn Dreamers. There are a few current boat owners who participate and you can learn a lot. All three builders have been around a long time and build good boats. In then end it will come down to personal preference. One step we use prior to looking for a boat is to play the 90% rule. What my wife and I do is sit down and list how we plan to use the boat 90% of the time. For example, when we looked into buying our first Nordhavn we had dreams of cruising 1,000 mile south to Mexico and 1,000 mile north to Alaska but we also knew we planned to live aboard Mon - Fri in San Diego. Well the 90% rule showed us that a larger salon over a larger pilothouse was a higher priority and it resulted in us buying the smaller N40 over the N43 due to its layout. Try it one day and be honest with your answers. You will also see that while a Flybridge is great (offers a second steering station for safety) your usage will likely be less than 10%. Now you need to consider the added cost (new build) and additional windage area when the breeze kicks up in a beam sea. It can make a difference on some boats. Best of luck.
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Interesting point. When we were looking at the Nordies we felt the 43 had more livable space than the 47.

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Old 12-22-2012, 11:50 AM   #18
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Dave, intersting take on the 43 and 47. Having spent a fair amount of time of both boats I find the 47 much larger. It comes down to personal choice and what we each look. Its a good thing there are so many choices out there for everyone.
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I think mostly we disliked the spiral stairs from the PH to the berths and heads. We don't care for that configuration on the larger Selenes either. The split half up to the pilot house and half a flight down to the cabins and engine room suits us.

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Dave, I can not agree more! This was another reason we went with the N40 and something that we are carrying over in the design of new boat which will be coastal cruiser. One thing for sure is fewer steps on a boat is safer.
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