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Old 09-20-2015, 06:07 PM   #1
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The Lines Parted

This is almost unbelievable. I'm sure many of you will remember my thread "The Pod Parted." So my friend who hit a rock and lost the pod drive unit finally got his boat all fixed and back in the water after 5 1/2 weeks.

Saturday he left with his wife for a weekend trip to one of our favorite harbors, Port Jefferson, NY. I own a mooring there and when my friend goes there he asks permission to use my mooring if he knows I am not heading there. Naturally I give my permission. This time I had promised it to another friend. Port Jeff has an extensive mooring field and as the season is drawing to a close many moorings were vacant and he picked up an unused mooring.

At about 8am this morning they were awakened by a loud bang. He rushed to the saloon and found the anchor pulpit and the anchor of a boat sticking through a 5' long oddly shaped port side saloon window. Glass was everywhere. Seems the winds had kicked up and the mooring lines on the "appropriated" mooring parted and his boat turned beam to the wind and drifted onto the boat on the mooring downwind of his. The mooring had 2 lines and they let go at the mooring ring. He was able to remove himself from the impaled position because pod drives can move the boat sideways.

Thinking back to a recent thread about using a mooring that is not yours...

I guess his season is over.

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Old 09-20-2015, 06:21 PM   #2
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With all due respect Howard your friend needs another hobby. Boating just may not be his thing.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:23 PM   #3
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Craig,

You may be right, however he's been boating for many years. I think it's just his turn in the barrel. I guess he's on a steep learning curve.
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I can relate, my dad ran cattle for 60 years before a compound fractured leg and 7 broken ribs within 2 months convinced him to leave cow punching to the kids.
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This web site may well owe its existence to anchor and rode threads. Given all the diligence and thought expressed about anchor type, brand, weight and connecting bits and pieces - why do boaters blithely tie up to an unknown mooring?

Do I sense a disconnect? Just curious.
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This web site may well owe its existence to anchor and rode threads. Given all the diligence and thought expressed about anchor type, brand, weight and connecting bits and pieces - why do boaters blithely tie up to an unknown mooring?

Do I sense a disconnect? Just curious.
I think so. I don't understand why people do that.
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If ever I pick up an OPM, I have a good look at it first. What you see above the water can also be an indication of what`s below.
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This web site may well owe its existence to anchor and rode threads. Given all the diligence and thought expressed about anchor type, brand, weight and connecting bits and pieces - why do boaters blithely tie up to an unknown mooring?

Do I sense a disconnect? Just curious.
And why don't they set alarms on moorings as well.
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Tie up to the ball and tug on it in reverse. If it holds, then go to bed.
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Mr. s. "Do I sense a disconnect?" Surely not. Why would you EVER think that on a TF thread. It seems the norm for a lot of threads on...

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Even on a somewhat "known" mooring, such as one assigned to you after consultation with the harbormaster, try to use your own lines to the chain if at all possible. At the Vero Beach mooring field, I once had the painter from the mooring break off in my hand as I was about to put it over the cleat; lesson learned. At our summer mooring in Westport, MA, I had new double bridles installed for the season as that is how their system was set up (though double rather than single was a special order). As stated on the "strange mooring" thread, I too would never pick up a random mooring of unknown quality.
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Tie up to the ball and tug on it in reverse. If it holds, then go to bed.
If it dos'nt what then?
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Tie up to the ball and tug on it in reverse. If it holds, then go to bed.
If it dos'nt what then?
Get out of there.

When we use a mooring we back down hard as to simulate what we think 40 knots of wind or so would be pulling. I know it's pretty subjective. This thread is one we've heard before. If the operator had backed down to even 1000 rpms I think he would have saved himself some grieve.

George: This past June when we were in Vero beach they had a 50' max loa. A 52' Nordhavn wanted a mooring and the staff were polite but firm saying no.
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This past June when we were in Vero beach they had a 50' max loa. A 52' Nordhavn wanted a mooring and the staff were polite but firm saying no.
Interesting; maybe I taught them a lesson! However it wasn't my boat size that caused the painter to break, as it wasn't attached to the boat yet. We were also once rafted up there with two other boats on the same mooring: one an old Chris Craft MY about our size, the other "Dyad" of bigdumboat / Opencpn fame. This was on one of the first sets of balls on the south end near the bridge. The broken painter incident took place further up the creek past the docks. So I wonder, do they not moor larger boats anymore, or were no big boat moorings available when the Nordhavn called in?
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Tie up to the ball and tug on it in reverse. If it holds, then go to bed.
A mooring is just a fancy anchor. So you take the same steps and precautions with it you would with an anchor.

Two differences, one positive and one negative. It should be very well anchored and less likely to move than an anchor. It may be poorly anchored and you don't know as much about it as you do about your anchor.
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This web site may well owe its existence to anchor and rode threads. Given all the diligence and thought expressed about anchor type, brand, weight and connecting bits and pieces - why do boaters blithely tie up to an unknown mooring?
In this case the boater was a non-member.
Had he been a member he would have known better.
----Maybe----
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In this case the boater was a non-member.
Had he been a member he would have known better.
----Maybe----
Not necessarily, there were a lot of members here all in favor of glomming on to strange open private moorings. Let's say you load test it and break it, or break it loose.. now what? You've effed up someone else's property that he may have kept his little day sailer on. Nice!
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Not necessarily, there were a lot of members here all in favor of glomming on to strange open private moorings. Let's say you load test it and break it, or break it loose.. now what? You've effed up someone else's property that he may have kept his little day sailer on. Nice!
That's why I said "Maybe."

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What a horrible sequence of events for your friend. I guess I always grew up anchoring and am comfortable with it. Seems many new boaters are nervous to anchor. I like that you can still see all the tackle, every time you anchors vs moorings. Even if your mooring is on a maintenance plan.
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