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Old 10-17-2016, 08:45 PM   #61
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I don't think Starbucks coffee comes with a stirrer.
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Did you refer to the post I listed re stiring the coffee? Had nothing to do w Starbucks. I made coffee that way in western Alaska (3000 mi.NW of Seattle). Starbucks was 40 or 50 years down the road. I was a "bull cook" on a bucket line gold dredge near Bethel.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:13 PM   #62
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The best cup of coffee I've ever had was in Indonesia. The coffee is called Kopi Luwak, supposedly the most expensive coffee in the world.
The coffee beans get their unique flavour because they are eaten by the Asian palm civet (a cat-like animal). The civets eat the raw beans, and the enzymes in their digestive system have an effect on the bean. When they come out the other end, the locals collect them, clean the beans and roast them. The end result is amazing! (and no arms are burnt in the process)
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:14 PM   #63
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For those of you who use a French Press (I like coffee made this way and have one at home that gets used occasionally) how do you clean the thing on the boat? At home, I dump the grounds down the sink with the disposal. The ground help clean the disposal. I wouldn't do that on the boat, but it would be a pain to try and dump the grounds in the garbage and then rinse the French Press with the limited water have on board.

If someone has a good system, I would be interested since I like French Pressed coffee and the Keurig cups can be harder to find on longer cruises.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:28 PM   #64
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Now, as to our coffee on the boat. Keurig. In a way it's just fancy instant coffee, but the ability to have so many choices and flavors and the ease with which it's made, make it our choice. .
Amen! I get up with the chickens (actually before the chickens!) & I just dump a cup of water into the Keurig, pick my flavor off the Keurig rack, hit the button and head for the cockpit. It doesn't get any better than that!
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:57 PM   #65
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Bob,
Did you refer to the post I listed re stiring the coffee? Had nothing to do w Starbucks. I made coffee that way in western Alaska (3000 mi.NW of Seattle). Starbucks was 40 or 50 years down the road. I was a "bull cook" on a bucket line gold dredge near Bethel.
Been to Bethel a few times myself some time ago, while working on the tugs. Interesting area and the trip up the Kuskokwim River is quite a trip. I don't know too many folks who have been there. Don't remember what kind of coffee we drank either!
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Actually, some of the very best coffee that I've had was served at the Intercontinental Hotel in Athens Greece. It was made from Ethiopian grown beans. Very rich, and very smooth. Nice.
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Some of the best coffee I have ever had was in Tanzania with locally grown coffee while in a safari camp in 1985. Coffee was great, just like the scenery, being near Kilimanjaro.
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Best cup of coffee, 1972, Jamaica, Blue Mountain Coffee, on my honeymoon with that damn red head. Great choice of coffee. Not so much the wife.
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It makes a difference if the beans are ground fresh just before.
If coffee tastes burnt the machine may be too hot and is burning the coffee.
IMO Starbucks coffee is fine, I usually get an extra shot into what gets called a "small" cup, avoiding the "bucket" size some places serve.
Bali coffee is great, civet processed or not, but the gold standard of coffee making is almost anywhere in Italy. They just get it right, even do an "americano",which is a not strong black coffee in a standard cup. Add an extra shot and it works,we call it a "long black". Personally, I crave a "double short black". Apologies if "black" offends PC standards.
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Had a new dark roast at Starbucks today. Very good. The great after taste kept my attention a long time afterwards.

Something else I learned from the barista's is that they have soecial water. Exactly the same all over the country .. and beyond perhaps. So a cup of Pike Place will be the same in Florida as here in Washington state. The water is special as to it's mineral or acid level/content too but I can't remember what? I'll ask tomorrow.

The people that come into Starbucks vary a lot. Sometimes they are kinda sleezy and I feel like leaving. And at other times a number of people are really interesting or even fascinating. On occasion foxy. From sleezy to classy. Most of the time I'm on my i-pad or book. Rereading "Man from St Petersburg" by ken Follett. REALLY good.

Interesting Bruce,
The cup sizes up here are called short, tall and grande.
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If someone has a good system, I would be interested since I like French Pressed coffee and the Keurig cups can be harder to find on longer cruises.
If you're within the US, order on Amazon while cruising. Have delivered to a marina.
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Amen! I get up with the chickens (actually before the chickens!) & I just dump a cup of water into the Keurig, pick my flavor off the Keurig rack, hit the button and head for the cockpit. It doesn't get any better than that!
Here Downunder that's called "sparrows fart" Walt...

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Best coffee I've ever experienced was brewed in Mahe, the Seychelles. No idea of the name of the hotel or the genealogy of the coffee but still memorable. Possibly African in origin.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:32 AM   #75
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Big coffee drinkers here... After years using a percolator, we got a Keurig Riva.. we love cappuccinos and lattes and this machine work flawless!!
Only problem like all keurig need special cups (different than others and kind of expensive)
But let me tell you something.. lack of coffee cup on board conduct to a immediate mutin few weeks ago... I fact, we abort a cruise due lack of coffee
Keurig is Great! At home... We use coffee brand of choice in reusable Keurig insert filter. Pyrex measuring cup under drip-stream... pour rich coffee into mug of choice! On boat... We use drip method of filter in container over glass pot w/ steaming water dribbled in. Either way, by adjusting amount of coffee ground volume to hot water employed we can make coffee as bold (or God forbid - lite) as we desire at the time.
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Walmart Rival Coffee pot..$12.00....Great Value Coffee....$7.00 Works for us.......And we drink a LOT of coffee!
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The best cup of coffee I've ever had was in Indonesia. The coffee is called Kopi Luwak, supposedly the most expensive coffee in the world.
The coffee beans get their unique flavour because they are eaten by the Asian palm civet (a cat-like animal). The civets eat the raw beans, and the enzymes in their digestive system have an effect on the bean. When they come out the other end, the locals collect them, clean the beans and roast them. The end result is amazing!
I believe this is correct. Just the thought is a little bit off-putting. But when you consider they are washed, roasted, ground, and then passed over boiling or very hot water, why not..? Never tried any though. I bet it costs, as well.
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The Admiral has her "boat coffee" every morning when on the boat, drip made coffee with a kiss of Baileys...........
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:43 AM   #79
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I've been roasting coffee for a couple years now and learned a lot in the process and my tastes changed. I used to drink mostly straight espresso shots, but these days I'm more likely to make an Americano or if time, a pour over or use an Aeropress which is the all out fastest way to make a great cup. While I still like dark coffee and shots if it is done well, very little is, and finding something other than a dark roast is like trying to find something other than an IPA at a tap house these days. People today are conditioned to want dark coffee as if it were a competition. Today's brew is better than the shelf robusta crap we were fed for so long, so that's what we want. Truth is, dark roasts get you roast flavor, and not much else. Now, I like a good roast flavor, but it's a single note coffee. It can be good, but good coffees have an amazing variety of flavor out there and we can do much much better. Ethiopian coffees can be amazing, Kona, Guatamala, Panama, etc. they all have their different tastes. If you drink dark coffee, you won't taste the varietal as it gets roasted out as the bean gets darker. Coffee can have some amazing fruit like and chocolate type flavors you are missing out on. People think that a light roast means a weak brew. Instead, the most flavorful cup of coffee simply can't come from a deep roast level, but the lighter the roast the more quality beans, grind and brewing will matter. Firms like Starbucks offer consistency. Varietal coffee is different, cup to cup, season to season, and it's more expensive. So if your Charbucks, you wisely build a business not around bean quality, which you can neither control, nor can you source enough specialty coffee in the first place, so you instead build a flavor profile that comes not from the bean taste but the roast itself. Consistency demands a dark roast and every big chain roasts this way. Then you can source inexpensive beans of wide ranges of quality. Dark coffee has become such the rage that specialty roasters have a harder time moving the expensive specialty coffee they took more care with than the inexpensive to produce French roast they make a killing on.

Next time you are in a good quality cafe that offers a pour over, give it a try. You might be surprised. You also might wind up ordering your coffee direct from a roaster and wait each season for the next crop of Kona to come in, or that particular Ethiopian that tasted like blueberries. It can get a bit obsessive.
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Charbucks, I love it.
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