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Old 07-25-2011, 04:26 PM   #41
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Corbett Canyon in a box (Pinot Nior or Malbec) is my go-to selection ;-)
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:59 PM   #42
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We like Bota Box, Late Bottle Vintage, and Malbec. The way the wine keeps is the delivery system eliminates any air from coming in contact with the wine.

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Old 07-25-2011, 09:16 PM   #43
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A lot of you guys are talk'in like you must have a bigger yacht or you'll miss life. Get a grip. Life is'nt about toys but there's plenty of toys in life. But you're having a good life is'nt dependent on having toys and if it even comes close to that you're in need of fixing things much more serious in life than putting another toy in the toy box. And if you pass on the bigger yacht and buy a canoe you may find there's more value in the canoe. There's a lot of truth in the old saying "the amount of fun you have w your boat is inversely proportional to the size of your boat". Forget the debt. Debt is bad. Debt (or it's effects) is not something that will be a positive thing in later life. And if you are one of the people that think this economy is another bump in the road that added debt will probably ruin the rest of your life. My vote is with Marin. Nix on the wine.
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Old 07-25-2011, 09:34 PM   #44
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A lot of you guys are talk'in like you must have a bigger yacht or you'll miss life. Get a grip. Life is'nt about toys but there's plenty of toys in life. But you're having a good life is'nt dependent on having toys and if it even comes close to that you're in need of fixing things much more serious in life than putting another toy in the toy box. And if you pass on the bigger yacht and buy a canoe you may find there's more value in the canoe. There's a lot of truth in the old saying "the amount of fun you have w your boat is inversely proportional to the size of your boat". Forget the debt. Debt is bad. Debt (or it's effects) is not something that will be a positive thing in later life. And if you are one of the people that think this economy is another bump in the road that added debt will probably ruin the rest of your life. My vote is with Marin. Nix on the wine.
*I was 'on board' until your until your last 3 sentences....???

But, what I think you were getting at, was what if we do make and have the debt load later....

Easy to say screw it, if you're 70ish,,, but if you are 30ish, you ought to consider the world was supposed to end countless times before, and you ought not to plan your life like you are going to exit sooner than later... that's what separates the rich folks from the poor folks is 'training' and mentality... you need a LONG term plan...

No doubt there is '****' we all go through,, my family has had it all cancer, alzheimers, accidents blah blah so I know the possiblilites... but to live with the intention of exiting early is just giving up..

But!!! wine makes us happy now,,, irregardless of all that other crap.. so why nix on wine???
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Perhaps Willy prefers a single-malt scotch?
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:27 AM   #47
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I prefer the single-malt and a cigar. It's great while you ponder the long term and enjoy the view while swinging on the hook.
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Thanks JD, I'm sure your right about the memories the boat holds. My problem is I have spent so much money in repower and upgrades I just can't make myself take the hit right now in the current economy. I feel selfish for thinking that way. But as long as the wife wants to do long weekends I remain hopeful. The boat memories are good ones.
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Well I don't know about the no debt crap.
When I decided to build my boat I was 46 and not a lot of money, I had some assets.
I got the boat builder and we set on a plan. I would keep him employed at least 3 days a week.
Off we went.
It was a great ride , nearly 3 years ,I ended up broke, had re kindled my wood working and mechanical skills, owned my dream boat, had sold all my assets and drove a very old Toyota 240Y at the end of it.
Even had my pentax SLR stolen the day before we launched, had a full film of boat photos in it.
Move ahead some 17/18 years. I have recovered, have had a fantastic 16 years living on my boat have cruised ,fished,dived the Great Barrier Reef
enough to know it very well and am now ready to take on some much longer cruises such as over the to to the Kimberleys and possibly down south to Tasmania.
If I hadn't taken the plunge I probably wouldn't be in the situation I am now.
An old guy with my dream boat, a missus that puts up with my crap, but as happy as a pig in s***e and on the water both at work and play.

And I am still not convinced that there has been any good wine put in a box.
The only good part of box wine is the bladder , it makes a good pillow to rest your weary hungover head on.
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*There may be some good (drinkable) but that is where it ends.*
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*There may be some good (drinkable) but that is where it ends.*

*Have you guys even tried it??

Just for fun try a taste test challenge.. sounds like BotaBox and Black Box are worthy.

wine blog

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If you won't try it, BECAUSE it is in a box, you are missing out on some good wine, maintained at it's best.* That's why the premium guys are going to it,, it holds the wine much better than a bottle.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:33 AM   #52
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waterhawk wrote:**Have you guys even tried it??
Just for fun try a taste test challenge.. sounds like BotaBox and Black Box are worthy.

wine blog

NYT article

*If you won't try it, BECAUSE it is in a box, you are missing out on some good wine, maintained at it's best.* That's why the premium guys are going to it,, it holds the wine much better than a bottle.
Yes I have and as I said some are drinkable*as in OK. I agree that it is maintained at it's best due to the lack of air getting to it.* But presently it's best is not quite that good.* Just because it says Reserve on a bottle doesn't make it a good wine.* Cost more maybe but not good.

Let me give another example.* In Italy you can bring a large 5 gal size*glass*container to the winery and get some inexpensive*table wines that would knock your sox's off yet there are two things wrong with it.* It is only available as bulk at the vineyard and it is not bottled or nor*sold outside of Italy.* The same holds true for CA wines*as well.

A lot of CA wines are not available outside of CA so box or bottle makes no difference.* Also the box wines are not up there with some of the better wines.* So drinkable for sure but if you are having a special meal that requires a special wine they are not it.

A VW is not a Porsche no matter what color you paint it or what name badges*you put on it.
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Let me give another example.* In Italy you can bring a large 5 gal size*glass*container to the winery and get some inexpensive*table wines that would knock your sox's off yet there are two things wrong with it.* It is only available as bulk at the vineyard and it is not bottled or nor*sold outside of Italy.* The same holds true for CA wines*as well.

A lot of CA wines are not available outside of CA so box or bottle makes no difference.* Also the box wines are not up there with some of the better wines.* So drinkable for sure but if you are having a special meal that requires a special wine they are not it.

A VW is not a Porsche no matter what color you paint it or what name badges*you put on it.
Haha,, well said!* I'm on onboard.
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You don't know how good the good wines are unless you've had a lot of experience with everything else! Not too often that a wine is truly undrinkable if you manage to get down the first glass or two.

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You don't know how good the good wines are unless you've had a lot of experience with everything else! Not too often that a wine is truly undrinkable if you manage to get down the first glass or two.

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You do realize that there are only 3 kinds of beer (or wine, gin, bourbon, etc),* right?

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That just cracks*my ass *up.

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Just drink responsibly or you may truly regret it!
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I'm no wine snob but I doubt that most people could really tell the difference between a bottled and boxed wine of similar quality in a true double blind taste test.** For most wine snobs much (if not most)*of the wine experience is in the packaging.* For us there's no better packaging than bags.* We have two drawers under the master bed that are full of bagged wine - no boxes.* And we have two boxes that the bags fit in.* So we can have a white or a zinfandel chilled in the fridge and a merlot sitting out on the counter.* Of course the label on the box bears no resemblance to what is inside it.* And we can cruise for months without running out.*

We just have to watch when we cross the border because both of our countries are so stupid about that experience.

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