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Old 09-15-2014, 04:19 PM   #21
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And we've actually already been to northern Scotland on our friends sailboat.

Beautiful, but they say they Norway is even prettier and far cheaper.

Scandinavia next summer certainly, fall maybe? Winter ????????????????
My wifey handles cold like a reptile. She is only warm for a week or two in August and we live in the South.

Having said that, we want to spend the winter in Ireland, UK and Norway. Not quite sure how this will work out but that is the plan.

Norway will be interesting because of EU visa rules which hopefully will be changed by the time we try to visit. The owners of the Morgan's Cloud, Attainable Adventure Cruising, stayed over the winter in Norway. They loved the place and the people. Their website is a pay site so I don't know how much non members can read, http://www.morganscloud.com/2001/07/17/arrival-in-norway/.

They have several posts about staying in Norway from their visits around 2001. The visa rules were different back then.

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Old 09-16-2014, 04:23 AM   #22
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US credit cards are supposed to be chip based next fall. It is unreal that the CC companies have taken this long to implement more secure technology even though they will still not be requiring a pin.

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Yes, BUT, our implementation of the chip is a bit different and it's unclear to me why, other than just bc.

Our cards do NOT have an embedded pin.

The machine it's inserted into then prints a receipt that we sign.

It works Iv the grocery store, and restaurant and, NO where else for me so far.

I'm guessing that some idiot who hadn't tried using a cc all over Europe came up with this thinking, Americans will think they are more secure if they have to sign something.

.The problem is Europeans moved away from that model 20 years ago.

So nowadays CC are used for virtually all remote locations, parking on street, in garages, train stations, etc.

So in the Netherlands, nothing worked.
The only thing I could do was still get cash using my old noon chip card from atm.
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:33 AM   #23
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My wifey handles cold like a reptile. She is only warm for a week or two in August and we live in the South.

Having said that, we want to spend the winter in Ireland, UK and Norway. Not quite sure how this will work out but that is the plan.

Norway will be interesting because of EU visa rules which hopefully will be changed by the time we try to visit. The owners of the Morgan's Cloud, Attainable Adventure Cruising, stayed over the winter in Norway. They loved the place and the people. Their website is a pay site so I don't know how much non members can read, http://www.morganscloud.com/2001/07/17/arrival-in-norway/.

They have several posts about staying in Norway from their visits around 2001. The visa rules were different back then.

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I've seen that site. There is a lot of info on cruisers forum. Check that out.

You are welcome to stay on Dauntless some time this winter.

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Old 09-16-2014, 11:16 AM   #24
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Yes, BUT, our implementation of the chip is a bit different and it's unclear to me why, other than just bc.

Our cards do NOT have an embedded pin.

The machine it's inserted into then prints a receipt that we sign.

It works Iv the grocery store, and restaurant and, NO where else for me so far.

I'm guessing that some idiot who hadn't tried using a cc all over Europe came up with this thinking, Americans will think they are more secure if they have to sign something.

.The problem is Europeans moved away from that model 20 years ago.

So nowadays CC are used for virtually all remote locations, parking on street, in garages, train stations, etc.

So in the Netherlands, nothing worked.
The only thing I could do was still get cash using my old noon chip card from atm.
A good Forbes article on the subject:

More Secure Credit Cards With Chips Coming To The U.S. - Forbes

It's still moving way too slow. Cost is probably the biggest reason but meanwhile fraud continues to grow. This is the problem when you lag behind in technology. The cost to then catch up is often prohibitive. Think of ever POS card unit in the US which needs to be replaced.

Now in many cases, upon request, your US bank can provide Chip and Pin cards. Bank of America does so to corporate accounts and to others on request. Don't travel to Europe without one.
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I've seen that site. There is a lot of info on cruisers forum. Check that out.

You are welcome to stay on Dauntless some time this winter.

Richard
Yes, that site is pretty good and worth the money. I really did not want to spend the dollars for the site but it has some very useful information. They have a post about trawler vs sail boats that is interesting. Part 1 was posted yesterday and their should be a second post soon. The article seems fair and correct so far.

Thanks for the invite!

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Old 09-16-2014, 11:52 AM   #26
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I'm guessing that some idiot who hadn't tried using a cc all over Europe came up with this thinking, Americans will think they are more secure if they have to sign something.
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The reports I read said that the CC company did not want to use a pin because people would have a fit over having to remember the pin. There is some truth to that especially if one has a bunch of CC. I would still rather have a pin on the card.

I did not realize that the US cards would not work overseas. I just got an updated CC and I will be danged if I can tell if the card is chipped or not. Given that the switch over is next year, the card should have a chip.

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A good Forbes article on the subject:

More Secure Credit Cards With Chips Coming To The U.S. - Forbes

It's still moving way too slow. Cost is probably the biggest reason but meanwhile fraud continues to grow. This is the problem when you lag behind in technology. The cost to then catch up is often prohibitive. Think of ever POS card unit in the US which needs to be replaced.

Now in many cases, upon request, your US bank can provide Chip and Pin cards. Bank of America does so to corporate accounts and to others on request. Don't travel to Europe without one.
Its not just the cards, it is the cost of new readers as well.

I guess I need to find out which, if any, of my CCs will work overseas. We are planning to go to China soon...

Very glad Richard mentioned the CC's.

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Old 09-16-2014, 01:54 PM   #27
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You have no worries, cloning cards does not seem to have caught on in China yet.

If you weren't giving a pin, it doesn't have one.

China has people doing everything. Holland is the opposite.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:57 PM   #28
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Debating whether to leave Castletownbere tomorrow afternoon.

That will mean a full day Thursday going 060 against a NE wind of tbd strength.

Still waiting for my Paravane poll.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:43 AM   #29
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Ok.
Easterly winds next few days, but decreasing in strength tonight and tomorrow.
So, I got my new Paravane pole. Set me back €300. On the high side of what I hoped, but they even came by yesterday evening while I was out at dinner, and took old pole to remove the fittings.

I didn't realize till this morning when I went up to fly bridge to untie pole and remove the fittings.
At first I wondered why it wasn't tied as I had left it.

Then I realized it wasn't there at all.

Can't complain about that kind of service.

Probably leaving tomorrow. Wanted to leave today, as I had to take boat to other side of harbor, to facilitate install of new pole.

But cooler heads prevailed as Dolan pointed out to me the little ripples in the harbour meant big seas outside of it.
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Nice to have local knowledge. Soak up as much as you can, it's valuable stuff. I'd rather have local knowledge than reading something from a book. Just sayin'
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Will you have delorme still? Is it just a two day trip?
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:59 PM   #32
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I hope this time you'll be taking along a proper quantity of libation for "splicing the main brace".
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Yes Delorme is on.
I'll keep it in till Waterford and then turn it in again when I leave Waterford, hopefully I'm March.

Just had my first Ireland casualty.
The fishermen on the second boat in is leaving early, so we decided to move DAUNTLESS to the dock.

But we shoe horned her in here, but I hit my Hella driving light and broke it's lens.

But had a great talk with the son, as I had spoken to his father last week.

Some interesting tidbits, the two boats behind me have ,Gardner engines, 136 hp. His boat has a '96 Cat, inline 6, 200hp, they've rebuilt it twice, but also love it.

Them having AIS has also made quite a difference, as similar to our experience, ships now don't ruin then down anymore.

According to the father, the only thing ship officers look at us the AIS.

I'll be reattach ing the Paravane tomorrow, then leaving.

I'm having a hot toddy now.
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Well, it's only proper that after you drug us crew all along on your pond crossing that you not kick us back to our shores upon your arrival! Thanks for inviting us to stay on for the next leg!
Ditto Animal. I'm looking forward to the next phase of "our" journey. It's been fun, though nerve-wracking too. I'm having a blast and hope an eBook is at the end of this journey.

I'll need to buy that.
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Shoe horned, I guess so! Looks like you had at least six inches on the bow and a foot on the stern. Probably did it with a 20 knot breeze too! Seriously have a great trip to Waterford.
Here's to your toddy!
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Richard, tomorrow history might be made in the UK with the Scottish vote for independence. Keep us posted as to the local feelings on this situation.

There is another traveler a bit like yourself that has taken on the challenge of crossing the Atlantic, but the other direction from England to the US. His name is Colin Hales, his average speed was about 100 kt faster than yours in a 600 lb KR2 homebuilt plane. He was in Oshkosh for the EAA fly-in and now in California for a gathering of other KR plane builders. Here is his blog, to make reading it easier, use your cursor to highlight the text to change the text from dark blue to white on the black background.

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Richard, tomorrow history might be made in the UK with the Scottish vote for independence. Keep us posted as to the local feelings on this situation.

There is another traveler a bit like yourself that has taken on the challenge of crossing the Atlantic, but the other direction from England to the US. His name is Colin Hales, his average speed was about 100 kt faster than yours in a 600 lb KR2 homebuilt plane. He was in Oshkosh for the EAA fly-in and now in California for a gathering of other KR plane builders. Here is his blog, to make reading it easier, use your cursor to highlight the text to change the text from dark blue to white on the black background.

KR-2 Worldtour: August 2014

I wanted to build a KR2S when I was a pilot and worked for my FBO.Those little planes are pretty fast.Glasair was another one.I took care of two of those.One a tail dragger with retractable mains and a fixed tricycle gear.Both were refitted with full glass cockpit instrumentation.
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I just had the best croissant and Danish ice ever had. Fresh from the oven and if Julie ever had the time, she'll tell you, I know nothing about boats, compared to my knowledge of pastries!

Bought oven warm from the local supermarket, where they proudly announce, all their baked goods are made upstairs every morning starting at 2 a.m.

This has so disappeared in the US.

Ok Don Quixote, move on.

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Were you able to get your poles mounted? Did you shove off?
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