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Old 01-25-2014, 06:38 PM   #21
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I actually thought it was a pretty salty looking ship. Plain yes, and a little "oaky" on the inside, but I'd cruise it.

Pluses:
Nice engine room with bench
John Deere main
Dry stack exhaust
Flying bridge of sorts
Sturdy steel construction
Nice profile
Lots of sleeping areas
Many many handrails :-)

Negatives:
Interior very "oaky"
Too expensive
Too many fuel tanks?
No generator
Home built
No bow thruster
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:59 PM   #22
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I actually thought it was a pretty salty looking ship. Plain yes, and a little "oaky" on the inside, but I'd cruise it.

Negatives:
Interior very "oaky"
Too expensive
Too many fuel tanks?
No generator
Home built
No bow thruster

Yeah, but look at it this way. If you figured what you're liable to spend on that Endeavour 44 you're talking about, you could put that extra money into this one and fix all those negatives!
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Old 01-25-2014, 10:36 PM   #23
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I like it and it's not too utilitarian for me and I'm sure my wife would like it too. I do like an aft cockpit though.

All those pictures and not one of the hull out of the water or even a lines drawing. The most important thing and it just gets skipped. And it's even a passagemaker. Makes no sense.

This is a sundeck .. right?
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:46 AM   #24
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All those pictures and not one of the hull out of the water or even a lines drawing. The most important thing and it just gets skipped. And it's even a passagemaker. Makes no sense.
I am looking forward to an analysis of the propulsive efficiency, sea keeping qualities, and most of all - seaworthiness.



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Old 01-26-2014, 08:26 AM   #25
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I am looking forward to an analysis of the propulsive efficiency, sea keeping qualities, and most of all - seaworthiness.



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From your detailed drawing I can tell it's over powered and much too large a boat to be an enjoyable boat for a rec boater.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:01 AM   #26
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There is one thing I can tell from the last two posts, but its got nothing to do with boats.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:23 AM   #27
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From your detailed drawing I can tell it's over powered and much too large a boat to be an enjoyable boat for a rec boater.
It's not my drawing, it came from the three drawings (profile, tank plan, and GA) provided in the advertisement. That is considerably more information than has been historically required by some folks to determine performance and suitability for whatever purpose.

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There is one thing I can tell from the last two posts, but its got nothing to do with boats.
Since speculation is a protected pastime, and speculators are not only welcomed but defended, speculation about the response to submission of photos, drawings, arrangements, and other construction details certainly falls within the rules of conduct.

I enjoy and welcome such speculation, and certainly don't consider an invitation to speculate as being anything more than that ... an invitation for members to contribute opinion and speculation. How or why would anyone think otherwise?

I appreciate psneeld's speculation and comments as they are relevant to the thread and previous posts. It is not written in code and it doesn't imply some other motive or meaning ... that sort of thing is really rude and might cause distress to those with a fragile psyche.

Anyway, back to the boat in question. Though it looks very utilitarian it is probably quite functional.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:48 AM   #28
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Wouldn't a fairly tall boat like this be affected by the wind in close quarters? I think the lack of a bow thruster would make it difficult to handle in close quarters for most (me), but since it's steel maybe it can handle some bumps.
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Old 01-26-2014, 09:56 AM   #29
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The world is dotted with single screw vessels that have significantly more windage than this one. If you ever get the chance, go watch the fishing fleet maneuver some time. Practice makes mostly perfect.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:29 AM   #30
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Those grab rails are for the captain to hold as the admiral tries to throw him overboard the first time she tries to put a sheet on that bed in the master stateroom.
I noticed none on the headboard. Must be an older couple?
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:58 AM   #31
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Oh My....
Don't get me started about the inadequate height mast...

The tiny rudder....

And the pointed bow.. if the anchor handler slips it will put a eye out!

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Old 01-26-2014, 06:41 PM   #32
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I am looking forward to an analysis of the propulsive efficiency, sea keeping qualities, and most of all - seaworthiness.
The side view of the hull isn't much different than the Coot.



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Old 01-26-2014, 10:44 PM   #33
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I actually thought it was a pretty salty looking ship. Plain yes, and a little "oaky" on the inside, but I'd cruise it. Pluses: Nice engine room with bench John Deere main Dry stack exhaust Flying bridge of sorts Sturdy steel construction Nice profile Lots of sleeping areas Many many handrails :-) Negatives: Interior very "oaky" Too expensive Too many fuel tanks? No generator Home built No bow thruster
Totally agree! Love the salty ship look (I'm a huge Duck fan), but my Midwestern up-bringing causes me to break into hives when I see that much oak inside!! Despite the choice of interior wood, it looks like a helluva boat for a homebuilt!
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:52 PM   #34
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Oak for oars.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:25 AM   #35
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This boat has been for sale for a few years. I remember reading this ad and it actually did get me sidetracked off Krogen for a while.

While it did sound good, the layout was simply not conducive for what we wanted.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:38 AM   #36
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It is the least expensive method to build a hull from flat plates.

A rolled chine cut to fit adds little to the cost , but makes the boat look nicer when on the hard.

There is only a minor difference in the sq fr of surface area between a fully developed rounded bottom and simple chines.

Perhaps the builder thought it would be worth 15c of fuel / hour to save learning a new skill set , and saving a few months.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:51 AM   #37
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The additional cuts, the machine needed to roll the plate, the skill to roll it correctly the first time every time, the additional weld time, consumables, and post processing is unreasonable for a builder and money out of the pocket of a yard.

A good looking metal hull with multiple compound curves welded by hand will require considerable fairing to complete. That may be beyond the capabilities of builders and, once again, either raises the selling price too high or cuts into the profit of a boatyard.
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